MTV hates on white men

[DonFerrari]

SpokenTruth said:

DonFerrari said:

Sorry to break your bubble... but I had countless conversations (some with friends) that basically condemened any pride on being white, male, straight, successfull or any other thing hated by progressist because neither of those were struggles or things they had any sympathy with. So it isn't a matter of explaining it is a pride on your background, achievements or family, because they will use the "just because it happens to you it doesn't deny that ....''.

Or even the famous "there isn't reverse racism, mysandry, heterophobia'', etc... because you are in a place of power... even if the person that is insulting you is a lesbian, black and fat CEO and you are a white, straight male janitor. They will use group judgement whenever possible to try and make you the wrong one.

Nobody is saying an individual, regardless of race, gender, sexual prefernce, religion, etc..., cannot be a hateful, bigot full of prejudice, spite, discrimination, apathy, animosity and misplaced angst.   There are individual and institutional versions of each but they often mean or apply to different things depending upon context.  Reverse racism just means discrinimation and bigotry by a minority invidual.  You can say it's all sementics but it helps understand the other side better when you realize the differences.

I do realize the difference, but what SJW pretend to be blind of is that not only minorities are biggoted againsted some majorities they are also biggoted against other minorities or even their one. And also there are several minority groups that are basically bigotry originator.

Torillian said:

DonFerrari said:

Sorry to break your bubble... but I had countless conversations (some with friends) that basically condemened any pride on being white, male, straight, successfull or any other thing hated by progressist because neither of those were struggles or things they had any sympathy with. So it isn't a matter of explaining it is a pride on your background, achievements or family, because they will use the "just because it happens to you it doesn't deny that ....''.

Or even the famous "there isn't reverse racism, mysandry, heterophobia'', etc... because you are in a place of power... even if the person that is insulting you is a lesbian, black and fat CEO and you are a white, straight male janitor. They will use group judgement whenever possible to try and make you the wrong one.

Well that's a different idea.  Should ____ pride be for things that put you at a disadvantage and you had to overcome.  Some would view white pride as similar to "tall pride" or "rich pride".  Things that do define someone, but would be viewed by most to be mostly advantageous.  It depends on how you view it, I think pride in your background is fine such as "italian pride" but "white pride" isn' really the same because white people don't think of themselves as having a common background.  

Basically, there are two different types of ____ pride, either you rose up from something that was disadvantageous to you, or you're celebrating your culture.  White people don't have a commonn culture so the latter doesn't make sense, and white people weren't as a disadvantage in America so the former doesn't make sense.  So you're just left with the KKK version.  

On the first part, I'm sorry but what I mostly commonly see is just a person being proud of who he/she is but isn't accepted just because there isn't perceived disadvantages on being he, and on that I see internalized racism from the people that say they are fightning racism because they are the first one to think being black, woman or gay is a disadvantage that need everybody else to help overcome.

Well even Black people doesn't have a common culture, there are like hundreds of different tribes and cultures in Africa and most black descendants doesn't even now from which tribe they really are up. So most of the "black culture" is an amalgamation of several costumes of different parts of Africa, not much different than what would be a white culture in western culture.