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Trumpstyle said:

 

I compared geforce 940m to radeon 7770(xbone gpu) and radeon had 2-3x the performance of several youtubes videos I could find so no they are not close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEHhOmlyhJQ (witcher 3 at 4:00)   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxQ7PGjVnBQ


That's good. But.
Remember, the Radeon 7770 is also a GDDR5 card. Not DDR3.
The 940M is just DDR3.
DDR3 version of the 7750 was sometimes up-to 90% slower than the GDDR5 version, it would be more pronounced for a chip that has even faster hardware, like the 7770, that needs the bandwidth even more. ;)

And I think you might finally be catching onto the point.

Trumpstyle said:
Switch is underclocked 50 % which they had to otherwise it would throttle in portable mode or draw to much power and drain the battery to quickly. That's the point and there probably isnt much in mobile that will beat switch even with pascal it would had gotten maybe 50-60 % more performance which is to low to get any third party support anyway.


Rubbish. Pretty much every single flagship handset is faster than the Switch.
Every single high-end tablet is faster than the Switch.

Even when the Switch is docked, it's laughably inadequate.

There is no excuse for reducing the clockrate of the CPU and GPU in the Switch to such an extensive level other than trying to save on cost, so they can get away with a smaller battery.

Trumpstyle said:
Regarding arm bifrost gpu, this it's not some magic technology as u says, it is garbage gpu. As huawei mate 9 proves, it uses 8mp (cores) and it's performance is terrible now samsung galaxy s8 will use mp18-20 (18-20cores) with 10nm transistor so it will probably have around 100+ % more performance and beat switch. But the phone will probably throttle heavily if cpu and gpu pushed to the max at same time.

Huawei mate 9 with 8 GPU cores? Wow. I can tell that is the best BiFrost powered GPU on the market and you have won this discussion.
(BiFrost goes up to 32 Cores.)

dahuman said:

Yet Nintendo hasn't disappointed me in exclusives so I have their hardwares but that's beside the point, you are comparing it to the wrong things, no ARM tablet on the market can compete with PC power, even if the Switch is running an X1, it's still mid-high tier when mobile power and power consumption are concerned. The game changed somewhat when we realised that the Switch is also a portable device and not a full time plugged-in device.

I think you are mis-reading my intention.

I don't expect PC power in a mobile ARM chip and thus in a handheld device. (Although it would be nice.)
I want "Good enough" performance, which an ARM chip *can* provide so as to make ports more viable, frostbite can go lower than the Xbox One's hardware and still look semi-decent, but the way the Switch is right now? Not happening.

Remember. The Switch is also a stationary console. It also has to compete with the PC, Playstation 4 and Xbox One... And it also needs to compete with Android and iOS devices aswell.




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