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Pemalite said:
Soundwave said:

Stop comparing it exclusively to the Wii U.

It's IS the 3DS successor too. That pretty much assures some sizable level of userbase. From a practical common sense POV, most of the Switch's potential audience is coming from the 3DS base (there isn't much of anything from the Wii U base to draw from in the first place). 

Whether we're talking 30-50 million, 60-70 million, or beyond that is anyone's guess at this point.

Some of you would call a dog a cat if Nintendo marketing told you so.

Once portables got to PS3/360 level of visual fidelity having some form of TV output was inevitable, had Sony made a PSP 3/Vita 2 it likely would also be able to play on the TV, because that level of graphics looks decent enough on a HDTV.

Even so. A past systems success does not mean the successor will be successful either.
The 3DS sold less than the DS.
The PS3 sold less than the PS2.
Otherwise the Wii U might have sold more than 14% of the original Wii.

But the reverse also holds true, a poor selling system is not representative of the success of the next machine, case in point the Wii out-selling the Gamecube by about 500%.
I wish people would drop this argument anyway. :P

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With that in mind, I don't see the Switch having Wii-like success at this stage, the same level of excitement just doesn't seem to be in the air, which is sad, hopefully I get proven wrong on release day.

Nintendo needs to do well and remain successfull, competition is a great thing and benefits us all, people wanting Nintendo to offer more competitive hardware is also a good thing, Nintendo might listen to it's consumers one day.

I will personally buy a "Switch TV" one day (Aka. Switch without all the portable stuff.) if Nintendo offers it at a lower price.

1) The point of his argument is to get people to stop thinking of the console from ONLY one perspective.

2) Did you see Wii having Wii-like success? I mean, you could argue you saw it being successful, but did you REALLY see it having the success it enjoyed? Or how about the DS enjoying the success it enjoyed? People at the time thought making a second hand held (because Nintendo said it was the, "third pillar") was commercial and finacial suicide. The DS even started out kind of rocky, was weaker than the PSP, and was being derided by journalists (until the first online titles came out... specifically Animal Crossing) but... it took off and almost nobody saw what was coming. My point? Saying you do not see it is just a safe bet. It takes heart to jump out and see something being a massive success or a massive failure. I am not saying you are lying about how you feel, I am just saying that it surprises nobody that people would think a console that has proven nothing will be nothing special.

3) The hardware is competitve for a hand held. I think people want it to be a home console so badly that they are not realizing it is a freaking hand held. What it offers will not appease everyone; if it tried, it may not be affordable to everyone. However, the people that have seen the console (especially from a more casual side) seem to see little reason to hate on the console.

4) So, you do not plan on buying a Switch then... And why would anyone buy want what appears to be an evolved 3DS without the evolutionary parts (protability, touch screen, or 3D feature)? Why would anyone buy another version of Wii U but without the touch screen or off screen game play in 2017? It makes no sense to want this console in another form factor because it seems incomplete and lacking in leverage if it does not offer something to compensate for its lack of graphical horse power.



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