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Bandorr said:
pokoko said:

What the fuck are you talking about?  Don't make up shit like that in a civil discussion.  Just don't do it.  That kind of garbage is uncalled for.

I am not defending what happened at the DNC at all.  In no way shape or form did I say anything like that whatsoever.  Why would I even defend that when I would take Sanders over Clinton and refused to vote for her (or Trump)?  That makes no damn sense.  Personally, I think a lot more needs to be done to address the problem with political corruption and those involved need to be freaking ruined.  What I'm saying now, however, has absolutely nothing to do with that.  Do you really, honestly not understand what I said or are you just trying to do some party-line bullshit?

According to our justice system, if you break the law while you are trying to prove that someone else broke the law then you are still responsible for breaking the law.  Period.  Do you understand that?

What you are saying is that you don't believe breaking and entering, search and seizure, or entrapment should be illegal as long as someone says they are searching for evidence of something nefarious.  It's fine if you want to live in a place like that but that is not how our justice system works.  That would be chaos and open the door to some scary abuse.

As someone who despises both parties, I don't give a damn who it affected this time or who it did not.  Can you honestly say the same?

This is the part that it seems a lot of people are missing. They are just saying "well stuff got revealed so  it is good". Yet if someone broke into their house, looked through their browsing history, tapped into their phones etc etc - I am sure they would be the first to be very not ok with it.

The ends do not justify the means.

Laws evolve, they are man made, they are not fixed, if enough people break them for good reason they often get changed, times are changing and the perception of existing laws will have to change as well, evolving into amended laws or new laws, laws have always changed to suit the times

If most people feel hacking to expose corruption is valid, then laws that stand in it's way are seen as unjust and will eventually change