November 2016 NPD Thread! Hardware estimates in the OP!

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Nuvendil said:

zorg1000 said:

Idk seems like making excuses

The combination of Call of Duty, Battlefield, Watch Dogs, Titanfall, Dishonored, Mafia along with first holiday for Slim models and sub-$250 price tags should have put them up YOY.

As for the rumored figures, you should read the post that I originally responded to. He asked why the rumored numbers are considered bad, I said they arent bad but are lower than people thought they would be based on all the things they had going for them.

I think the biggest damage was CoD's performance.  It's not just down, it's WAY down.  And there was no official bundle for it.  And Assassin's Creed, also a typical console mover, skipped this year.  And aside from Battlefield, all the rest you mentioned were fairly underhyped and Mavia in particular got quite the lukewarm reception.  

And PS4 lowered it's price late in the November game, so that's part of that issue.  But Xbox's problem is that their little game of fire sale after fire sale is a war of diminishing returns.  Having them so frequently has eroded their effectiveness.  So Sony under-utilized their resources and Microsoft has so often over played their hand with the sales that their agression in the Holidays this year just isn't as effective as it has been in the past.  

Agree with pretty much all of that, particularily with supa bomba CoD and the part about fire sales and diminishing returns. At this point, any potential Xbox owner would be crazy not to wait for the console to be on sale before buying.