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VGPolyglot on 20 December 2016
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Soundwave said:
VGPolyglot said:

Obama has deported more immigrants than any other leader, authorizes drone strikes that kills civilians, sucks up to Saudi Arabia despite their horrible track record, authorized a war in Libya, arms rebels in Syria that commit numerous atrocities, he has prosecuted numerous whistleblowers, he helped bail out wall street instead of the people, he was silent during the North Dakota pipeline protests, he still brought out the troops from Iraq nor Afghanistan, he said that Guantanamo Bay would "be easy" to close, yet 8 years later it's still open, etc.

To be fair on the North Dakota thing I think he was involved in putting pressure on behind the scenes to get the Army to halt construction (at least for now anyway, it'll probably get greenlight as soon as Trump takes office), someone on high applied some pressure some where it seems like. 

Drone strikes are bad but what is the alternative? Letting terrorist hotbeds grow out of control and hoping for the best? Having boots on the ground which would probably result in greater casualities and leave whole cities/villages levelled? Not really sure there's a good answer here.  

Libya was a mistake, but I believe he's actually acknowledged that calling it the big regret of his presidency. It's not like Gaddafi was a boy scout or something though and the US involvement there was limited. I agree though on this he shouldn't opted to not get involved. 

He did bail out Wallstreet, but I don't think there was any choice, a collapse of the banking system would've hurt the "people" too, as far as I know most people don't keep their life savings in cash and most people need loans from the bank to buy things like houses, cars, etc. He also bailed out the auto industry in Detroit which saved a lot of jobs. 

There are some rudimentary forces left in Iraq and Afghanistan but no where near where we were pre-2008 where many American soldiers would've been forced into their 3rd/4th deployment to either country. 

Do you seriously believe that Barack Obama cares about "the terrorists"? If he was really so worried about the increase of terrorism, he would be cutting off support with Saudi Arabia, potentially the biggest exporter of terrorism worldwide. Fighting terrorism is merely a scam of a pretext to invade another country.