Nintendo Switch model is expensive for us and cheap for Nintendo. Hardware and Software.

[DonFerrari]

Veknoid_Outcast said:
Jesus people. Why is every other thread on this site either proselytizing people to buy one piece of plastic or cajoling others to refuse to buy a different piece of plastic? Options are good, right? How can Sony fans who time after time celebrate diversity, pooh-pooh the Switch for going it's own way? How can console fans who argue for the supremacy of game design over PC graphics and mods criticize Switch for being underpowered? Finally how can everyone act as if all console manufacturers are altruistic but Nintendo, a company that under Iwata was frequently accused of focusing on game creation at the expense of revenue, is in it only for the profit margins?

The cognitive dissonance on this forum is overwhelming.

Considering the cost of production versus price to customer they weren't in any way, shape or form going overboard on game creation at the expense of revenue. Not when you consider what all other big studios were making and how much they poor on each project.

ironmanDX said:

DonFerrari said:

If Switch cost almost the same as a X1/Ps4 how would it be the cheap console alternative? Nope it would be the handheld (which already existed a market), or the nintendo exclusive machine, but in nowhere it's a cheaper alternative to the other 2 as the other 2 are cheaper alternative to some gaming rigs (that could also use alternatives on PC themselves)

How isn't it? Almost the same, as you say is in fact still cheaper. It also doubles as a portable. I'm not sure how you're confused.                    

Try doubling the Ps4 or xbox one as a portable. That'll be $299 thanks. https://www.amazon.com/Vanguard-Personal-Environment-XBOX-ONE-S/dp/B00H0R9DSG 

When PS4/X1 cost 250 versus a 500 PC it is a cheaper alternative. When Switch release for 199+ it won't be a cheaper alternative, not in the same margin.

Sony do have PSVita if you want, and that is still less than 199 and can play PS4 games through stream, and I basically know all the negatives you'll make

mountaindewslave said:

no offense OP but you're honestly not really the type of customer Nintendo is after anyway (i.e. it sounds unlikely you were genuinely someone interested in the Wii, DS, 3DS).

Now I haven't really dug Nintendo's last few home consoles, but you're overreacting a little bit. If Nintendo wasn't offering great specs and hardware power AND had no bonus feature then you'd be totally on point.

But a system that is well designed that can comfortably and quickly go from being a handheld to docked and used on your TV without a real change in performance? that's pretty great and hasn't really been done in a dedicated video game format before.

also the reality is that the Switch will be by a HUGE amount the highest graphical handheld video gaming device yet. And don't start bringing up poorly optimized tablets that supposedly have gaming as a feature (they never run well or are comfortable and NO one uses them). SImilarly, there are some powerful phones out there but the gaming on them is a joke, whether we're talking about performance and caliber of game OR the control scheme

 

There is extreme value in a combined handheld/home device and the transition to playing the games in your hands to docking it and playing on the TV in seconds is potentially pretty exciting.

Again, there have been things CONCEPTUALLY similar but nothing particularly streamlined, successful, or exclusively game dedicated

Nintendo didn't plan well for the Wii U in terms of release schedule, it's true, but I also think its fairly obvious that as the Wii U was beginning to clearly fail (mid life cycle) Nintendo likely decided to shift a number of the projects for the system to the Switch instead. I also will point out that Nintendo actually did a fairly good job at supporting the 3DS

when you combine all of their focus into one device I think its obvious they're going to have a much more frequent release date window for games in the calendar year.

In the end the OP's post is extremely negative. Nintendo was somewhat competitive graphically for a few gens, yes, (SNES / N64 / Gamecube) but in the end its their innovation in terms of unique gameplay and their game LIBRARY that people come to them for

and the Switch specs haven't been released yet. Even so, the rumored specs are insanely good for a handheld primary device, at least when compared with everything up to this point

Considering the info we got from DF today, 40% drop on Handheld isn't a small lose in performance.