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Frogger on 20 December 2016
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twintail said:
spemanig said:

Of course it is. They literally said they they haven't supported Nintendo because of power, they said they the Switch demo was the most impressive they've ever seen, and the Skyrim being featured is the remastered version, which isn't possible on last gen-level hardware.

With From, the rumor from Laura Kate Dale is that they have DS3 running at a satisfactory level on the Switch, and they were another dev who were very vocal about not putting the Souls series on Nintendo hardware specifically. Since they are confirmed to be working on the Switch, that's likely the game. That's current gen.

We are obviously not getting the entire picture. That list is specifically for partners, which means they are developing for it. I don't remember any dev on the Wii U image that didn't.

lol please

Sure the yare not lying, but the Switch is strong enough to play a port of a 5 year old game. A game that runs natively at 4k on PS4 (a pretty obvious sign of the lack of  capability needed for the game). And that is all. When they start showing off stuff like Fallout 4 then maybe we can look past taking their words at face value. 

And we have no idea what Todd Howard was impressed by anyway. Maybe it was just that the Switch could work in both dock and undocked modes.  

And how often do From Software actually release a game without technical issues? Not very often at all.  'Performance they are happy with' is meaningless in this regard. Current gen or not, DS3 is not without frame rate or even frame pacing issues. and they have had those issues for the entire series more or less. 

 

i am totally with you that JAN is where we can truly have these sort of conversations. But as it stands, Skyrim and the talk of Dark Souls 3 is not the strong evidence you make it out to be. on the contrary, they do nothing to support a strong Switch or even deny the weaker specs offered by Digital Foundry.

Switch is strong enough to play the remastered port of Skyrim, with higher quality assets that systems with the specs being speculated for the Switch could not run.

Switch isn't the first portable device to output to TV, and it's not the first to be powerful enough to run last gen software, so that being the reason it was "the most impressing demo he'd ever seen" isn't likely. His problem with Nintendo was power. He was explicit.

Think about what you're saying. DS3 has technical issues on current gen hardware. It should be damn near impossible to get the game running even equally as porely on the Switch given the rumored specs. If running at 20-30 fps is what they consider acceptable on PS4/XBO, they aren't going to suddenly lower that to 10-20fps. It's going to remain the same. Of course DS3 has technical issues. That doesn't mean that From Soft are tech illiterate idiots that can't tell when a port is running up to their own standards.

I never said they deny the specs offered by DF, I said there's obviously more to this. Again, DF only offered clock speeds, which doesn't offer the full picture, and what we know from the full picture from From and Bethesda suggests that the way people are interpreting those numbers isn't in line with where the Switch actually is.