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HappySqurriel on 31 May 2008
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Diomedes1976 said:
kylohk said:
Diomedes1976 said:
Mario,Zelda ,Metroid or Brawl are great games.No one is doubting that.

The fact is that being great games they arent much superior to the Game Cube counterparts.

The Wii hasnt evolved an inch core gaming ,in fact I would say that with 20 months in the market the Game Cube had LOTS more core games.

Despite what you might want to think, gaming isn't something as intricate as hobbies like wine tasting. If anything, a sequel does not have to meet your requirements to be considered to be good. Tell me, are the games fun? Are they enjoyable? If yes, then you don't really have a say in the matter especially when millions of others tend to disagree with your opinions.

If anything, you sound like those irate customers in restaurants that will never be pleased.

Assuming that just because you don't like it, doesn't mean everyone has to think the same way as you do. Whether those games are considered an improvement over their GCN counterparts is to be decided by the majority of consumers, not one selfish individual.

Also, I'm starting to get the impression that there is a conspiracy of gamers who's trying to redefine a "gamer" as a person who enjoys PS360 games mainly. It is as if those gamers are not permitted to own a Wii only. Tell me, why do I have to care about what gets released on the PS3 or X360? If it's not released for the Wii, I'll learn to live without them.


You see too much conspirations ,I fear.

As you have highlighted ,I said Mario ,Zelda and Metroid are great games.But they arent far removed from the Cube prequels in technical and playability issues.Basically you  do the same but with the Wiimote ,and see/hear the same ,but in 480p this time.A improvement so small it doesnt justify teh generation leap.That doesnt mean those games sell by the millions ....just as their Cube representants did.But with those games selling millions the Cube was a clear third out of three last generation.Its the Mario and Sonic ,Wii Fit ,Wii Academy and Wii Sports ,coupled with the great marketing and hype around the motion controls ,what it managing the Wii success.Those games are very ,very rudimentary in its technical side and in their playability.They may be selling by millions ,but are a step back in videogaming.There are tons of millions of people playing flash games for free as Luxor ,Zuma and Jewels Quest all around the world in their home computers or at work.Decent graphics (for a flash game thats it),instant addiction and accesibility ,cheap price (cheaper that nothing you dont get)......smash success.But we dont want these kind of games to take over do we?.Its just an example so you get the idea.


Well, if the only path for generational improvements is by a massive leap forward in technology this industry is doomed ... Realistically, how muc of a techical improvement will be possible over what the PS3 or XBox 360 are already offering?

The fact of the matter is the industry starts to need to define improvement is some way beyond the number of polygons that are being displayed on the screen; and yes, attempting to produce a more intuitive user interface which enables far greater interactivity is one of the ways to measure progress.