November 2016 NPD Thread! Hardware estimates in the OP!

[3sexty]

iNathan said:

3sexty said:

Actually Sony need N/A and console gaming worldwide in general way more than MS. Its bad news for Sony to have such a decline in an important market for one of their few money making businesses. Terrible actually since their TV business declined, PCs offloaded, phones down quite a bit  and now this.  They need console profits way more than MS do. For MS its a minor business venture to run alongside its other huge money makers, - Surface, Windows 10, Enterprise, Software, Cloud etc. On the topic of compueter hardware, the irony here is while Sony failed in the pc hardware space, MS are thriving with the Surface line of computers.  I mean isnt hardware supposed to be Sony's bread and butter. Very concerning trend for Sony.

Lmao sure they don't even give numbers for Surface, pretty sure is a major flop and another money sink like Bing  Xbox or many others, it's just that Microsoft can hide that behind their monstrous Windows and Office revenues. 

Don't try to fool people seriously, sure Microsoft is big but all they do recently apart from W10 and Cloud  is major flops aka Bing Xbox One Windows 8 Surface Kin etc. 

Sure they can one day become big brands, iphone didn't set the world on fire when launched. 

Lauaghing your ass off? at surface now being a billion doallar per qaurter business and it just keeps on improving. Its amuzing to see what makes you laugh. You need to read up a little more. Check the last profit quarterly releasea and related news. Unlike Sony hardware products, Surface computing business is on the rise and gaining traction. (save me some time and do a couple google searches for yourself). And I wouldnt call Xbox One a flop without providing some more uesful context. They are still supporiting it and even providing new h/w releases into the coming year - and now making gains on Sony's primary money maker (in the u.s). So obviously they have a better gauge as to whether its a flop than you I'd say. If they thought it was a pointless excersice they would have dropped it already (and a long time ago - like many of you have wrongly predicted). But hey, they are still here in 2016 and certainly though to 18/19 at least. I think you are trying to play it down by trying to sound really dramatic with misleading words like flop..Anyhow I have provided you with some entertaining reading below should you wish to indulge!

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