pokoko said:
Don't give me that bullshit strawman argument. The people I'm "bashing" aren't waiting for evidence, they're saying that they don't care because it didn't hurt their side. This thread is full of comments to that effect and you're lying if you're telling me otherwise. That's a childish attitude and I have no idea why you would defend that. |
In your first post you didn't quote anybody and just made a general statement of people who discredit this. your first comment I reffered to said this
"It's absolutely astounding that people are trying to discredit this simply because they supported Trump. Get over yourself."
I personally think this whole Russia hack claim is bs until I see evidence (only evidence out there for us to see points the opposite way). I discredit this and according to your first post it must be simply because I I dont want Trump to look bad. This is why I responded, your statement was broad and would include me as well. Also how is this a strawman? Im not changing your argument nor saying those people don't exist, im simply addressing the contradictions in your post. I pointed out the hyprocrisy of you bashing people for not being as skeptical as yourself saying things like "Question everything--especially if you want to believe it." yet you are rushing to believe this Russian hack claim without access to a single ounce of evidence. Come on man. do you not think you are jumping the gun just a little?
also about the people not waiting for the evidence. How can you even know that? there currently is absolutely no evidence and these people are rightfully skeptical. It could be they don't want to believe anything anti Trump. True, that could be the case. OR they could simply be waiting on the evidence since these people who claim this aren't exactly the most credible. You are claiming to know their true motives. So yeah, I disagree on that argument as well. I don't assume things about people based on my feelings. If evidence comes out and those people do NOT change their positions then you can start bashing them.
Reading through this thread again, nobody even discredited this article before your first post. So you were making a BROAD statement about the people who dont believe this. there is nothing wrong with being skeptical, I actually like that quote "Question everything--especially if you want to believe it." and I understand it is extremely hard to do that. Everyone fails to be skeptical at some point and will believe something simply based on trust of the one claiming it. If you see people doing this, try to reason with them as that would be the only way to make them think critically in the future. Sorry for long posts, I dont post a lot and like to say everything I am thinking when I do.