Will Sony get cocky next generation?

[Rafie]

scrapking said:

Rafie said:

 Still what works with one company make not work with another. Just because it's seemingly beneficial to have some of their exclusives on the PC, doesn't mean that it's actually beneficial for them. In this case with the trying hard bit, it doesn't really work here. There's an obvious reason why Sony chose to keep some of their own exclusives from the PC. Which is really smart. Oh and no offense my friend, but that was a weak analogy. Although I do get the sentiment you're relaying.

 

* Just to let you know, the mod support on the Xbox is still abit limited itself. It's not like the PC where you get full range. Sony has directives in place for their console. Hopefully, we'll see something soon with that.

*With the internal HDD it's unbelievably easy. Sure the external is much more easier as you only have to plug it in. However, I'm glad that I can change it internally without the drive being out in the open. Then again, it would be nice to have an external HD option. Like you said....convenience.

*Why do you see it as arrogance for Sony because they didn't add a UHD blu ray drive? People weren't asking for it. I admit it was very strange not to add it, but Sony explained their reason for not having it. I guess the reasons aren't enough as it still doesn't negate the fact that they could have had it. I see that more as a misstep. They added blu ray to the PS3 before it was even the norm. People say that as arrogant because it hiked the price up. Now that they omitted and UHD drive, they're arrogant for not having one.

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[Edit to correct "are" to "aren't" in the first sentence.]  I tend to agree with you that these aren't examples of Sony's old arrogance returning.  At least not yet.  I have argued, and continue to believe, that eschewing UHD in the Pro (well, more to the point, BD-XL) is a bad strategy as it will hamper for years longer how high the capacity of game discs can go, a problem when supporting multiple levels of system (PS4, PS4 Pro, PS5), additional assets for VR, etc.  Unless they believe that games will be predominantly digitally distributed in the near future (rather than the 10-30% digitally distributed that they are today), it's a bad strategy not to establish BD-XL for the PS4 Pro.  But like you say, it's a misstep rather than arrogance.

I agree that replacing the internal drive as easily as on the PS4 is good, and I think allowing installs to external drives as on the Xbox One is good.  The perfect console would have both.  :)  Which a user thinks is the more important option depends on their priorities.  One advantage of game installs to an external drive is that both drives can be accessed concurrently to avoid drive thrashing (perhaps an app or OS components being accessed off the internal drive, while game assets are accessed simultaneously off the external drive).  There are potential advantages to external drive support such as the ability to take your external drive to a friends house, sign in with your gamertag, and you're good to go.  I have an Xbox One at home and an Xbox One S in the staff room at work, so that's a potential advantage to me.  As games get bigger, that may be something I do more of in the future.

I think Sony keeping their exclusives off the PC is a mistake.  You suggest Sony keeps "some" of their exclusives off the PC.  Did they release any non-MMO exclusives on the PC?  None come to mind.  I don't think Sony failing to release them on PC is arrogance as traditionally few first-party console titles got PC releases.  I see that as Microsoft taking a consumer-positive stance, as opposed to Sony taking an anti-consumer stance.

Mod support is limited on the Xbox One, but far less limited than it is on the PS4 according to mod creators on Reddit.  That's the strongest argument in this whole thread in favour of Sony's arrogant ways returning, IMO.

Uhh....I think the bolded will always be an issue of preference. PC gamers want any and all exclusives. No matter who it's from. As long as the PC can play it, then it's cool. This is why I believe that Xbox lost some of their identity as a console business conglomerate. Sharing over 90% of their titles with the PC feels like a mistake to me. What separates Xbox from PC then beside one being a console? The games was suppose to do that, in my opinion. PlayStation not giving the PC their exclusives is more of smart move than a mistake here. Just like Nintendo, if you want to play games like God Of War, Ratchet & Clank,  Gran Turismo, Gravity Rush, etc....then you will have to purchase a PlayStation console.

Now you have some of the best games that made Xbox stellar like Forza, Gears, Halo, etc on the PC now. Sure it's good for PC gamers, but Xbox folks can only claim a little victory over the 2 rivals.

What I meant about "some" of the exclusives going to PC...it was more about consoles exclusives. So games like SFV, Nier, KOF, NMS, etc are games that's on PC, but not on Xbox. Whether Sony had more control over what would go to PC or not remains to be seen. That's more or less of what I meant about some exclusives. First party games at the moment aren't available on PC. Just strictly Sony. Just like Nintendo first party and second party isn't on PC. Gotta keep some of those gems close to your chest. So future games like Scalebound, Cuphead, Crackdown 3, and such will be available on PC. You won't find GT, NioH, Persona 5, and other on PC. That's why I said what I said about Sony keeping their exclusive games off PC is a smart move. This is no shade at MS and how they're doing business. I'm just a consumer and only see it thru a consumer's pov. Please enlighten me as to why it's beneficial for Sony to have their games on PC. Outside of gaining a larger audience, what other benefits will they have? Btw, I'm not being facitious nor sarcastic when I asked to be enlightened. Just want your stance.