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CosmicSex on 12 December 2016
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Locknuts said:
CosmicSex said:

Russia has no place sponsoring a canidate in a US election.   States are supposed to have sovereignty, either through elections or whatever,  to choose there own leader.  It would be fair however to point out that the US has done this to other nations as well.

Americans have something much more dangerous, much closer to home: The mainstream media. They are more dangerous because they are trusted and so obviously pushing a leftist agenda.

Very few Americans believe what the Russians say or do unless they come armed with facts, as they (apparently) did in this case.

Also, as you say: every country does this. So how did 17 intelligence agencies allow this to happen? The more I hear and read about this, the more doubts I have that Russia was involved.

Julian Assange has flat out denied that the Russian government was involved in any way, and implied heavily that a DNC staffer that was murdered under suspicious circumstances was a source. He can't reveal his sources of course, but I don't think he could have implied it more strongly.

You wrong the general public by insisting that we are too dumb to know that the media is biased.  There is no leftist agenda as such beyond supporting individuals that align with their viewpoints.  This is something all of the media does.  Its called having an oponion.  But to say that we are helpless.  That I buy into Bill ORiley's bigotry simply because he is given a platform, is insane.

And you are only half right about the media, they legitimized Trump by refusing to stay on topic and talk about the issues.  They have turned the election into a freakshow.  They talked about Trump nonstop... but not about his policies.  They allowed him to get away with inviting the Russian's into the election. 

Julian Assange is lying.  It is the Russians.  Do you really think the CIA would 'kill a staffer' so they could frame Russia?  We also know that both the DNC and RNC were hacked.  Giving you part of the truth without the whole truth is how people like Julian seek to exert his influence for his own personal reasons.  He did it for him.  Make no mistake. 

We are now in that time where we have ignored so much, that Trump is gonna feel like a king.  Even if he did cheat, if Russia hacked machines or whatever, it would never matter to some folks and that is scary.  By the same tolken I know some are that devoted to Democratic causes.  But you are all crazy if you can't tell that something is wrong here.