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thismeintiel on 11 December 2016
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Turkish said:
KBG29 said:

Well, I usually agree with your posts, but this time I will have to be sceptical. I know the schedule for the newer fabrication process's, I check on them at least once a week, it is part of my terrible addiction to the internet. We are basically saying the same thing about 2019 being the earliest realistic time period for the next console. On my end that is based on everything going smoothly in the move to 7nm, however, the move to smaller fabs is almost never smooth, so that is why I feel 2020 may be when the next new console revisions may arrive.

As for generational leaps inside a fab process, I have to completely disagree. There is no way your going to convience me that the leap from the 7970GHz Edition to the R9 Fury X is a generational leap. Sorry, but 2X the performance, even with newer tricks is not a generational leap.  Even PS3 to PS4 was not a true generational leap due to one being a high end 90nm chip and the other being a mid to low end 28nm chip. PS3 to PS4 Pro is more of what we should expect from a generational leap between consoles, and if PS4 and XBO would have launched at $599.99, then we would have got that.

Finally, PS5 has to be a fully capable 4K system. The thought of it not running every game at native 4K/30fps makes my blood boil. Even if they called the next revision PS4 Pro+, I fullly expect native 4K/30fps as a minimum. Honestly, this is what it should be going forward;

PS4 = 900p - 1080p/30fps Min

PS4 Pro = 1440p - 1800p/30fps Min

PS4 Spec 3 = 4K/30fps Min

All of these consoles would run the same games, minor graphicl improvements from PS4 to PS4 spec 3 with the major improvement being the 4x increase in pixels.

PS5 Spec 1 = 4K/30fps Min

PS5 Spec 2 = 6K/30fps Min

PS5 Spec 3 = 8K/30fps Min

PS5 Spec 1 would realize a generational leap over PS4 at 4K, the jump from 12 TF to 25TF GPU, 16GB to 128GB RAM, and 5400rpm HDD to SSD would absolutly blow people away. That is what next gen is about, that is what Sony and MS should be aming for. Everything in between is just a nice option for those that want to be at the spear head of tech. PS4 to PS5 and XBO to XB4 should be something that blows everyone away, and is a must have for the masses.

I'm not sure how things stand on AMD's side, but going from GTX600 series to 900 gives definite improvements whether you buy a low or high end card.

I do expect 4k to be minimum on PS5, I just wish they went with ~-1600-1800p for more graphical effects. Just imagine how a native 1080p game would look next gen.

I'd rather they make the PS5 Pro available day 1 and sell at $999 for all the hardcore wanting all the bells and whistles.

I think what we're going to get in the PS5 is an upgraded version of the Fury X, a 8.6 Tflops GPU, so I'm guessing the PS5 will be ~9-10 Tflops.  Which, sure, doesn't seem like a big upgrade from the Pro, but when actually judging from the OG PS4 (what we should be comparing it to), that's ~5x+ more powerful.  That is a full upgrade.  And devs will be using it to its fullest, unlike the Pro, which is basically just getting updated ports of PS4 games.  I also think 4K 30FPS will be the standard.  However, I fully expect Sony to allow devs to choose to do native or utilize their patented checkerboard tech to push the visuals even more, while still giving a near 4K IQ.