| princevenom said: dam looks like these numbers are true after all i think this gen will end soon and both sony and ms will officially announce ps5 and xbox 2 in 2018 imo |
Anything I missed to this story? http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=223502&page=1#
KBG29 said:
That would be the end of consoles. PS5 in 2018 would not even be able to double the power of the Pro. It would be the smallest leap in console history. New consoles can't come until 2019 at the earliest. That is the soonest 7nm chips will be available in mas scale. Even at that though I don't think tech will be ready for a new gen PS or Xbox. It is better to brand new devices as enhanced versions of the curent platform until the time comes when a true generational leap can occur. The best thing Sony and Microsoft could do going forward is release one final PS4 and XBO revision with around 10 - 12TF GPU's, and 16GB of RAM in 2020 with 7nm. Then when 3nm chips arrive in 2023 or 2024 they can deliver consoles with ~25TF, 128GB of on HBM RAM, and large SSD's. This would offer a full generational leap, and truly be a next gen console. |
Sigh so much wrong in this post.
1st of all. Even in the same 14nm node a PS5 in 3 years time will provide a generational leap, because GPUs themselves will evolve and make generational leaps. Vega 10 is 14nm like Polaris and rumored to already reach 12TFLOPZ next year. GTX600 and 900 series were both 28nm but the latter is so much more powerful.
2. If PS4 Pro with its 4.2TFLOPZ had its own exclusives, you would already start to see graphical leaps. It's 2.3x more powerful than a regular PS4, that is halfway between the PS3 and PS4.
3. 7nm is coming by 2019:
TSMC, Q1'16 briefing
"Let me give you first on N10 update. We have received N10 customer product tape-out in 1Q 2016. We are actively preparing for more customer product tape-outs in the following quarters. Most of our N10 [=10nm] users are for mobile products. We will put this technology in production in two of TSMC's 12-inch giga-fabs. Those tape-outs will drive a sizable demand starting from 2Q 2017 through 2018."
"We have expanded our N7 design ecosystem development to include both mobile and high-performance computing, to enable our customers to deliver their first-to-market products. Our N7 adoption is very strong, with customers ranging from mobile GPU, game console, FPGA, network processors and other consumer product applications. We have more than 20 customers in intensive design engagement with us and expect to have 15 customer tape-outs in 2017. The volume production of N7 will start from first half 2018."
"Our 7-nanometer technology development is well on track. Its 256-megabit SRAM yield improvement is ahead of our schedule. In addition, we believe our 7-nanometer PPA, that is power, performance and area density, with its schedule, is ahead of our competitors. This technology has been aggressively adopted, not only by mobile customers, but also by high-performance computing customers. They all have aggressive product tape-out plan in first half 2017, with volume production planned in early 2018."
As you see, it's expected 7nm high end GPUs will start arriving by mid 2018. That is 18 months before Sony will realistically launch the PS5 (holiday 2019).
What this means is that the PS5 will have the same technology of the $250-300 7nm card AMD is planning of at least mid 2018. PS5 is locked to be at minimum 10-12TFLOPZ. 5x faster than the PS4.
While that is enough juice for a next gen 4k experience, I'm hoping they choose something like 1600p-1800p and use as much power on the graphics as they can. They can release a PS5 Pro to render thoe extra 4-500p's later on.
