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burninmylight said:
DonFerrari said:

I won't declare a cop out, the rumors are 0,6TF (and would make sense as a portable) but sure it could be stronger.

Yes, developing for 1,2TF X1 will be a nightmare if they try to capitalize on Scorpio prowess, but going to 0,6 (if that is the end number) will be even worse and the port would be the worse of the pack and we saw time and again how Nintendo fans threat their ports when it's the worse version.

SE and other companies will develop games for the original PS4 and X1 and work their way up, not the other way around. No way are they abandoning tens of millions of consumers for a fraction of that number. The PS4 Pro and Scorpio are not a factor when considering Switch ports, only the original PS4 and X1. And I doubt Sony and Microsoft would develop these mid-gen upgrades knowing that it would make capitalizing on their prowess a nightmare. I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they know what they're doing.

Comparing to other companies I can accept that their games are better accepted than most other 3rd parties, but when talking about MP the piece of pie Nintendo sells is very little or am I wrong?

MP... multiplayer? Isn't FFXV primarily a single player experience? Because if so, then I fail to see what this has to do with the topic.

Considering all numbered FF were for home consoles I don't think that is the reason for the fall of FF (but sure considering base size they would have more to sell on HH altough I don't think FF is the kind of game I would want on the go, but who knows if the japanese would want).

I think the Japanese would love anything on the go. Their lifestyle is very suited to handhelds, and they show that with their wallets. And considering that HH development is considerably cheaper than home console development, they wouldn't need to sell as much, not to mention that handhelds are more popular worldwide, so they would have a larger base to sell to.

Sorry, this is one of the threads I couldn't dedicate to read everything, week have been filled because of FF Exvius. I was tooking from the OP that he was decreating the death of FF and home console and that only selling on Switch would mmake sense. 

PLEASE READ THIS PARAGRAPH, THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE. He didn't say FF is dead/dying. He said the home console market in Japan is dying. He also never said selling ONLY on Switch would make sense. He said that if Japanese devs want to save their console market, they need to start bringing their games to the Switch as well (which means not just PS4 games, but Vita games). Not once did he say FF should be exclusive to Nintendo. This is what a lot of people in this thread interpreted the message as, but that has never been the case.

FF have always been about being the most advance possible on consoles, and they had spin offs to go to portables (I don't think they really sold gangbangs on the portables have it? Not the time to check right now). So they would have to totally switch their development mindset to make FF go to HH instead of console. Looking at Japan it could make sense, but looking WW and that FF always managed good sales overseas I wouldn't bet on this being the best solution.

No, it hasn't always been about the spectacle for Final Fantasy. That started with VII on the PlayStation. Square made a paradigm shift back then, and it paid off big time. Square as also made several big time blunders over the years too. I'm not saying whether it should shift its development mindset, but I am saying that the Japanese home console market has a knee in the grave (and that's before we get to AAA development in general), and continuing down the stubborn path it's been on could be self-destructive.

Yes, they will dev for X1 and PS4 and them the way up for Pro and Scorpio, but I don't think they will leave much wiggle room on X1 (probably 720-900p) to allow for a decent port to Switch, but of course I could be wrong (even more for not demanding games)

MP = Multiplatform in here. When a game is MP Nintendo is the smallest seller usually.

HH devices get spin-off Final Fantasy, and that is how it shall be. But yes they could take the WW larger presence on home console to appease to the minority on HH because it's bigger in Japan.

Well making it exclusive to switch would be to silly to even make the proposition. But even MPing it on Switch will probably make little impact in the end.

Really japanese games are based on 100k SW sellers not multimillion so it won't make much of a diference to achieve that target if it's PS4 or Switch they dev on. But if you are talking about the big games the way we can look at PS3 generation they will need to appease more and more to western or decide to go the opposite route, cut back and be more HH design path. Certainly there will be cases where one or the other will be the best option.



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