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Intrinsic on 09 December 2016
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EricHiggin said:
Intrinsic said:

The issue with that is, all of this 8th gen Sony has never shown their numbers. Not once. So I have no idea where the years of PS boasting about sales is coming from. Right now that just sounds more like you are flat out lying. 

They only commemt on NPD results. This year their comment was best BF I'm the history of PlayStation. Last year it was PS4 was the number one console bla bla bla. They never give actual numbers. 

Sony only releases two sets of numbers. Shipment numbers in their fiscal reports and sell through numbers in their "milestone" reports. And those are alwsys global numbers. 

And I don't understand how Pro to slim split matters at all. The slim should and will always sell way better than the pro. For one simple reason. it's cheaper. It's no indication of if people are upgrading or not. There will always be fewer people willing to spend more for a console when they can get pretty much the same thing for less. Unless the people in question has a 4k TV. 

There is nothing strange here. or odd, except for the amount of spin we are seeing. 

So your saying you didn't say you wanted PS to show their numbers? That's funny because you did earlier. Yet when someone else wants to see the numbers as well they are stupid for wanting to see them?  Sure, ok?

Your getting your "numbers" mixed up. PS boasts about total, as per usual, thats nothing new. Its pretty clear its been that way most of the gen based on what you explained, so I'm not sure why your so confused. Must be all that spining your doing.

I said i would like them to show their NPD numbers. Which is also an acceptance of the fact that all of this gen they have not shown their NPD numbers. 

However, you are clearly pushing an agenda here, claiming that Sony has always been showing their numbers and are boastful do them but refusing to show numbers for this npd which according to you suggests something g is wromg.

That's all just one really bogus conspiracy theory cause none of what you are saying is true. 

I don't think I or anyone here has said that they wouldn't like to see the numbers, it's just strange that you take sony doing what they have done for the past 3yrs to suddenly mean they are hiding something. and that's what I'm disputing here. 

the only numbers Sony gives are shipment numners and sold through numbers when they hit certain milestones. If that is boasting to you then I'm sorry, I domt know what to say to that. 

but I'd you choose to continue, do us a favour. make it clear what exactly the point t you are trying to make is. 

if all you are saying is it would be nice to see numbers? then no one on this forum will argue with that. 

but if you are saying Sony always show NPD numbers and them not showing it now means they are hiding something, then it means you sre being disengenious and spreading misinformation. Basically you are lying. 

So which is it, cauee going off your original post I replied to it sounds firmly like the latter