FFXV's Sales In Japan: It Is Time For Japanese Devs To Support Switch?

[DonFerrari]

burninmylight said:

DonFerrari said:

Doing a port of FF XVI... on Switch 0,6TF when they will at the same time dev for Scorpio on 6+TF seems really simple. Even better is how much 3rd party sells on Nintendo consoles, and the premise of OP that FF is selling less but associating that with PS and that putting the games on Nintendo would make sales sky high

Doing a port of FF XVI... on Switch 0,6TF

While the Switch might be in that TF range, I'd feel better talking about this once we have more concrete information. Right now, it's all rumors and speculation.  You can call this a cop out if you want, but I'd be saying the same thing if the Switch was rumored to be 60TF.

when they will at the same time dev for Scorpio on 6+TF seems really simple

Every game that comes to the Scorpio will also come to the original X1, so this is a moot point. I thought everyone knew that.

Even better is how much 3rd party sells on Nintendo consoles

And Square Enix games usually do very well on Nintendo consoles. Nintendo console owners have proven that they will support SE's efforts.

and the premise of OP that FF is selling less but associating that with PS and that putting the games on Nintendo would make sales sky high

I agree that it is not a PlayStation brand problem. It is more of a loss of consumer trust and the fact that the game is on a system that must be plugged into a wall socket at all times. But Soundwave NEVER said that putting the games on a Nintendo console would make sales "sky high." That's just hyperbole on your part. He's said over and over and over that the home console market in Japan is almost dead, and a portable console like the Switch is it's only hope for survival. You seem to read every post in the thread, so how do you keep missing this?

It's not about it being from Nintendo. If the PS4 was outselling over there and wrecking shop, this thread wouldn't exist. IF the Vita wasn't being outsold by the 3DS, then we'd be saying FF needs to come to the Vita. But the fact is that the 3DS is the most popular console there, but Japanese devs are reluctant to support it. With it looking very likely that Sony will not produce a successor to the Vita, the Switch will be the last portable console that we have left. If Japanese devs refuse to support that, then they better start brushing up on their mobile development skills. What is so hard to understand about that? You don't have to agree with it, but that doesn't mean that you have to warp the message in the process.

I won't declare a cop out, the rumors are 0,6TF (and would make sense as a portable) but sure it could be stronger.

Yes, developing for 1,2TF X1 will be a nightmare if they try to capitalize on Scorpio prowess, but going to 0,6 (if that is the end number) will be even worse and the port would be the worse of the pack and we saw time and again how Nintendo fans threat their ports when it's the worse version.

Comparing to other companies I can accept that their games are better accepted than most other 3rd parties, but when talking about MP the piece of pie Nintendo sells is very little or am I wrong?

Considering all numbered FF were for home consoles I don't think that is the reason for the fall of FF (but sure considering base size they would have more to sell on HH altough I don't think FF is the kind of game I would want on the go, but who knows if the japanese would want).

Sorry, this is one of the threads I couldn't dedicate to read everything, week have been filled because of FF Exvius. I was tooking from the OP that he was decreating the death of FF and home console and that only selling on Switch would mmake sense. 

FF have always been about being the most advance possible on consoles, and they had spin offs to go to portables (I don't think they really sold gangbangs on the portables have it? Not the time to check right now). So they would have to totally switch their development mindset to make FF go to HH instead of console. Looking at Japan it could make sense, but looking WW and that FF always managed good sales overseas I wouldn't bet on this being the best solution.

Wyrdness said:

Hynad said:

If anything, FF XVI will cost less and take much less time to produce because S-E now have all the tools required to make such elaborate games. They will tune and improve the current engine, but they don't need to build it from scratch. 

And really... FF XII truly had better graphics than FFX. Not a generational jump, of course, but it was improved the same way that FF IX was over VIII. I don't know what Wyrd is on about. xD

Sorry what? X is above XII graphically that's not even a question especially when you look at character models, XII had to sac graphical prowess to accomodate the more exploration based approach it went for hence why the emphasis on the art direction was far more focused. X even holds up well against its remasters, if you don't know what I'm on about then here:

X is a such a beautifull thing, my remaster on PS4 look almost as good as a normal game (not an FF of course, because each FF is almost the prettiest thing to watch on a console)