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BVick said:
pokoko said:

lol. That's just a bullshit political scapegoat term, same as "red wall", which people parrot because they can't build their own arguments.  lol.  Tell me, instead, how many recent Republican Presidents have won the Electoral College but not the popular vote?  lol.  Okay, now tell me how many recent Democrat Presidents have won the Electoral College but not the popular vote? lol.  There is your answer.  lol.

lol.

You would be right about it being a "bullshit politcial scapegoat term"... if people said "red wall" but they dont. Dems always have the advantage in the electorial collage because the US has become more liberal over the years, in metro areas especially. Lets face it though. we wouldnt be having this convertion if the results were reversed. People would only say "You need to accept the results of the election". Like everyone should be doing.  

I don't care "what people say".  The simple fact is that both sides have a collection of states they don't have to worry about.  If this "blue wall" is such an advantage for the democrats then why have 4 of the last 6 winners of the electoral college been republicans?  Why is it such an advantage when 2 of those republican electoral college winners lost the popular vote?

You're telling me that it's an advantage when they would have won more if we did not use the electoral college system?  That doesn't make any sense.  Hillary Clinton was a terrible candidate that democrats stayed home in droves to avoid voting for, yet she still won the popular vote.  The raw numbers favor the democrats and the republicans know it.  There is no way that they think they'd have a better chance at the White House in a popular vote format.

As for the conversation, we'd be having it either way.  Both parties are full of people who look for whatever advantage they can get and whatever excuses they can find.  You have only to look at the practice of gerrymandering to realize that neither party gives a rat's ass about waging a fair or honest fight.  The simple truth is that whomever is on top is not going to change the rules that helped get them on top.