IT related question.

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Hiku said:

caffeinade said:

If a switch does not work, you may have to try some specialized hardware like this.

http://fibertronics-store.com/Fiber-Optic-Switches_c937.htm

Fiber switch, eh? Duly noted.

Ganoncrotch said:

What is your end goal here, why can't you just get a router with more ports on it for example, what is the specifics of needing to have 2 routers on one line? not that you can't do that anyway, you can very easily have one router followed by another just with features like DHCP turned off on the second one. Is this a case if you are trying to split a single connection into two exactly down the middle with house mates over bandwidth sharing issues? if so there is better ways of doing this.

 

Edit - you are probably mistaking terms Router and modem here btw, if you are using it at the demark point it is most likely a modem+router you have and not just a straight up Router.

The issue is, there is a router with built in ports for IP telephony that needs to be plugged in so that one of the residents can use the telephone. I'll call it Router 1 for short. Router 1 has an instability issue where it will disconnect you from the internet usually multiple times a day. It seems particularly sensetive to live streaming. Router 1 was sent to us from our IP. I've tried getting a replacement from them, but it was exactly the same, and this is a known issue, they say. There are two people in the household connected to Router 1. And every time Router 1 malfunctions, they have to go out in the hallway to reset it.

What I originally wanted to do, was plug in a Router 2 into the wall, and then have the two residents computers hooked up to Router 2, and also connect Router 1 to one of the ports in Router 2, and simply have it there for the purpose of telephony, and no one has to be plugged into Router 1. However, Router 1 refuses to work when it's plugged into Router 2 that way. It only accepts the braodband into its WAN port if it's directly from the wall. My IP explained this to me, and it had something to do with Router 2 changing the signal before passing it on to Router 1.
Therefor, it seems Router 1 needs to be connected directly to the fiberoptics port in the wall. And there is only one such fiberoptics port available for this.

So to solve the issue of people having to deal with the very unstable Router 1, I thought there may be a way to connect two different routers into the wall. It sounds like a Desktop switch may do that.

As for if I'm mistaking a router for a modem/router, perhaps. This is Router 2: https://www.asus.com/Networking/RTAC66U/
Doesn't say anything about Modem on the specifications page. As for Router 1, I'm not sure.

Yeah, no. What comes out of the wall is not your regular TCP/IP ethernet. It most likely runs some PPP underneath it.

The router (and the modem within it) translate the signal and authenticate your connection to the provider. Splitting it at the socket means you would authenticate twice to the provider which should not be possible as you're already logged in with one router.

A switch certainly won't do it since the packets should not be formed in a way that the switch could redirect them properly. If anything you'd need a hub, which might bring a whole other bag of problems. 

Then again I don't know how your ISP handles endpoint connection.

You have 3 options here:

Talk to your provider if it's possible at all. Good luck with that.

Get yourself a separate SIP VoIP device that you plug into a new router of your choice and try to configure it. Your provider should have all the data you need for that. Again, good luck getting any kind of useful information from them.

Plug your current router into a new router and set a default route to the new router. With a bit of luck your old router should then just act as a SIP client and send the voice traffic over your new router to the internet. All other devices can be plugged into the new router.