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Egelo said:
Nautilus said:

"legit gaming" How cute.

Im not emotional or anything.The word you are looking for is frustrated at how narrow minded you are.Your whole basis spins around the concept that Nintendo has no chance of improving unless they do something out of the box like the Wii(And I guess that back in GC days people said the same thing, but without that "only if Nintendo does something like the Wii" argument, that they would just keep declining in sales).The real funny thing is that you dont even accept the chance that Nintendo may have got things right and the Switch may just be the console that will turn Nintendos fortune for the best.I am not saying to believe it, but dismissing the chance completely is simply wrong.

And lets not fool ourselfs:There has plenty of examples of that in the past, for all console manufacturers.The most recent one would be with the XOne.It started really badly, but now it found its pacing and managed to fix most of its problems.Sony was in an even worse position with the PS3.It started horribly, and while it did manage to make the PS3 in a commercially successful product in the end, it was a financial failure, a money blackhole.If the PS4 turned out to be the same(commercially succesful, but a financial failure), Sony as a company, coupled with the recent problems they had during the PS3 era, could have go bankrupt, since the pS4 was essential, or at the very least very important, for their recovery.

So yeah, until proven otherwise, Switch may get good third party support and yeah, they may sell well enough to keep supporting it.And rumours and declarations from companies so far seems to corroborate that.Yes, there is the standard Ubisoft PR, but there are the comments from companies like Bethesda that arent simply PR, because they never done that with Nintendo before.

Not to mention the reason that people that play on nintendo consoles dont usually buy third party games is because the version is far inferior than the other ones, and people simply buy the other versions.If developers take the time to make a dcent port, nintendo gamers will buy them.Indies sell very well on Nintendo platforms(and there is alot of variety), so why would be different for Nintendo?

Be less biased, please.


But they did keep declining in sales, wii bucked the trend but wiiu wont even catch the GC, Since the NES its been a downward. 

you say bias, but here what i see.

After the failure of Wiiu, Nintendo is launching a console and only facing a PS4 and X1 are their best at +50m +30m.  Who have gotten are getting more powerfull versions and might/should be getting a price cut.  All things point to the Switch being weaker then the weakest sku from PS and Xbox and it may cost more then a PS4.. wow.  None are pleaging fullly equal support same as Ps4/X1.  Switch will miss game releases we know this as fact already.  We all know the 3rd party struggles on nintendo platforms.  Nothing remotly recent historically points to any likelyhood of good 3rd party sales especially upon launch time.  You said nin fans dont buy 3rdP casue inferior ports yet given the likely power disparity Switch games will not be equal to the PS/X versions and will be especially iferior to the Pro/Scorpio.

Indies might have sold yet others didint.  And this is where were at.  

Fell free to call be bias lol.  Im just cold and realistic.

My problem is not with you being analytical with this.While you got some points wrong, such as price(It is all indicating that the cheapest Switch SKU will be at the very least cheaper than the normal PS4, with a good chance of being 50 dollars cheaper), and that GC had decent third party support and their versions sold well(It was just that the PS2 versions sold better due to overwhelmingly higher installed base), Im not contesting the historical side of things, or that the likelyhood of third party staying the same on the Switch as it was on Wii U.

My problem with your posts is that you are clamoring as fact that the Switch will fail with 100% of certain, when that is simply and factually wrong.Companies learn from their mistakes and Nintendo is no different.They adapt and do ddifferent strategies.See the previous example I gave about the XOne and PS3.Or even look at Nintendo history to see another one.The jump from GC to Wii is another example of adapting tactics.They went to a different kind of market(The Wii was the complete oposite of what the GC was trying to do) and suceeded,All Im saying is that there is a chance that the Switch may be just that.I dont ask you to accep that as fact or anything.Just accept that as a chance, as something that might happen, even if it is remote.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1