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Egelo said:
Nautilus said:

I am repeating because not only you dont seem to understand the point Im trying to make, but you dont even answer with a real argument and just says:"Look at Wii U?See any third party?Yeah, there is your answer for why Switch wont have gamez!"

I am making the comparison with the XBox because you say that the other counter parts will simply have the better versions and thus third party games on the Switch wont sell well.The PS4 usually have the better version, either due to the graphics being abit better, or more stable framerate, and yet the XBox version also sells well.Why?Because in the end, the difference isnt big and people have preferences on consoles and prefer to buy on their console of choice, even if their versions arent the exactly the best one.

The same can happen to the Switch.Developers dont give a flying fuck if its Nintendo and the stereotype that "third parties dont sell on Nintendo".Assuming the Switch is capable of handling their games, and the company sees potential in it, they will port to it, especially since Nintendo seems to be pro active on bringing devs on board.The Wii U failed because Nintendo failed with it, both in its design and treatment with third party.If Nintendo makes the right moves, they can and will get people to port or make games for the NS.

To be quite honest, whoever thinks that the Switch will do Wii U numbers or remotely close to it, are simply delusional.By combining their handheld and home console, they are expanding their audience for that system by a large number.People seriously need to stop with the Nintendo is Doomed thought all the time without any evidence.

You are way emotional about this.

Not a sterotype just a well known fact, especially on a sales site.   Nintendo fans tend to be phobic of non nintendo games, and as previous gens show 3rd party sales on their consoles are pathetic and weak at best most times.  

You are using the xbox becasue 3rd party games barely exist on nintendo consoles for you to gather any factual evidence to support your hopes and dreams about the switch.  

X1 gets most games casue the PS4/X1/PC spread hits the largest combined user base in legit gaming and its easy to port between them.   Its why they quickly abandoned the wiiu and will quickly once sales fail abandon the Switch.  

And the 3rd aprty sales will fail as Switch will be facing 50m +PS4s and 30m+X1s in wild.  Two huge user bases that have been conditioned since day one to buy 3rd paty games, contrary to the ninty fans.   This is why Swich is screwd when talking 3rd party sales.  We all know Mario Zelda and Pokemon will get great sales, while the 3rd partys fail miserbly and bail.  

I never said they are doomed you did, thats you emotions kicking in seems you fear that.  But there is more evidence to support that theory then there is support your it could beat the PS4 lol.  You want evidence of nintendo doom look no futher then WiiU sales.  

"legit gaming" How cute.

Im not emotional or anything.The word you are looking for is frustrated at how narrow minded you are.Your whole basis spins around the concept that Nintendo has no chance of improving unless they do something out of the box like the Wii(And I guess that back in GC days people said the same thing, but without that "only if Nintendo does something like the Wii" argument, that they would just keep declining in sales).The real funny thing is that you dont even accept the chance that Nintendo may have got things right and the Switch may just be the console that will turn Nintendos fortune for the best.I am not saying to believe it, but dismissing the chance completely is simply wrong.

And lets not fool ourselfs:There has plenty of examples of that in the past, for all console manufacturers.The most recent one would be with the XOne.It started really badly, but now it found its pacing and managed to fix most of its problems.Sony was in an even worse position with the PS3.It started horribly, and while it did manage to make the PS3 in a commercially successful product in the end, it was a financial failure, a money blackhole.If the PS4 turned out to be the same(commercially succesful, but a financial failure), Sony as a company, coupled with the recent problems they had during the PS3 era, could have go bankrupt, since the pS4 was essential, or at the very least very important, for their recovery.

So yeah, until proven otherwise, Switch may get good third party support and yeah, they may sell well enough to keep supporting it.And rumours and declarations from companies so far seems to corroborate that.Yes, there is the standard Ubisoft PR, but there are the comments from companies like Bethesda that arent simply PR, because they never done that with Nintendo before.

Not to mention the reason that people that play on nintendo consoles dont usually buy third party games is because the version is far inferior than the other ones, and people simply buy the other versions.If developers take the time to make a dcent port, nintendo gamers will buy them.Indies sell very well on Nintendo platforms(and there is alot of variety), so why would be different for Nintendo?

Be less biased, please.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1