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Shinobi-san said:
mutantsushi said:

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How their success with games counters that? I say that just highlights that they should have taken high road here.
Their games, their overall reception for PS4 could have made this gen an unalloyed success for them re: mindshare.
These little things take away from that by however much. Certainly people will be looking at Scorpio because of UHD.
Whether on OG PS4 or Pro, people will certainly enjoy the great games on the platform, fair enough.
If people want to reduce this to "Sony are still winning, HA!", fine, but that doesn't make the issues disappear.

Nice post !

Agree with most of what you said.

I especially agree about your thoughts on mindshare. If i was Sony I would have included the UHD blue ray drive regardless of cost, simply to compete with Xbox. The aim should be to never give a consumer a reason to go with the competition. Thats what they got right in the beginning of the gen, but not as of right now. Consumers have a reason to buy the Xbox Slim and are also going to have a reason to buy the Scorpio.

In order to say that this is a bad decision, you have to compare the number of people who would choose an xb1 over a ps4 solely because of a UHD blue ray drive with the number of people who care more about a sub $400 price. Clearly Sony tried their best to make it as inexpensive as possible and thus an affordable option.

There will always be a reason for consumers to choose another console (i.e. Scorpio). That doesn't mean that Sony should make a super expensive version (e.g. with more ram) that only a few people will buy.