[DF] Performance Analysis: Final Fantasy 15

[Mafioso]

DonFerrari said:

Bandorr said:

At the cost of quite a lot of lag. I mean you are routing it through an entire console that is doing the upscaling - making this practice very, very useless.

I don't even remember if it works. I am fairly sure the xbox one S doesn't do 4k pass-through and it is just the TV doing the upscaling.

I don't mind lag too much, but since my tv already upscale I don't think there would be much value passing it through X1S.

irstupid said:

And how does that help someone who doesn't own the system or game and wants to know before they buy. Youtube videos are crap. Every game looks infinitely better in person than on youtube.

But if I'm contemplating buying a Xbox One S or not and decide to go to websites like IGN or something for their input. How does it help me to listen to them talk pros and cons if they don't even have a 4k/hdr tv for the reviewing purposes? Games apparantly upscale pretty good from what I've heard from some individual youtube reviewers, but these MAINSTREAM websites that are huge like IGN are reviewing this 4k upscaler system on a 1080p tv? How does that make sense.

Would you want them reviewing the ps4 pro on a 1080p tv? My 4k discs I purchased, came with a digital copy and a blu ray copy. I suppose I should watch the digital version on my ipad and put up a 4k review for the movie huh? That makes sense right.

I'm saying that because reviewers aren't much thrustworthy, unfortunately. The only good way to evaluate before buying is either having a demo or going to the store and play it.

It doesn't make any sense, but we have know for quite some time that IGN is full of crap and DF is basically the only place that does a respectable analysis on the graphical side of things.

Nope I wouldn't want they reviewing PS4Pro 4k mode on a 1080p tv, the most I would accept is they analyzing the improvements it does on a 1080p tv against the PS4 vanilla. But they must be very straight and separate them. And you know it doesn't make sense but you also know that not only there would be critics analyzing the IQ of the movie on the iPad as if it were 4k as there are reviewers that review a game by watching YT gameplay.

Mafioso said:

See for yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EasYMRHUsQw&t=221s

XBO S can hardware upscale to 4K anything you put into it.

 Kodi thru it does sharpen my streams considerably.

It works better than the upscalers in both the Samsung KS8000, LG UH8500  that i have and certainly the HU6300 in the video above.

Not allowed in company to see YT =[

My TV can upscale to 4k anything as well, 65X850C from Sony, and it is said to be quite competent at it, dunno how much it fairs against X1S on upscalling side, but wouldn't passing through the system make the biggest issue (which is the lag) even bigger

Your TV, any TV, will add lag upconverting a 1080p signal to 4K anyways. If anything, its better done at the hardware level letting the display simply display a native 4K input with no processing to do on its own. This is why monitors don't upscale ;)

If your TV is in Game mode, the signal coming into it will be recognized as Native 4K from the XBO S and will operate with minimal lag added by the display.

I played MGSV (PS4) upscaled thru the XBO S and it played just fine.  Lag to me is a complete disconnect from my inputs, like how Remote Play has lag. Feels nothing like that. That said i'm not encouraging E-ports players to start upconverting their PS4 CoD thru an XBO.