I am truly annoyed at the wii

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amp316 said:

Diomedes1976 said:

amp316 said:
Dumbing down something that never was very good? Wow. Nintendo never has had anything very good and they've dumbed everything down? I don't think people that speak like this have ever played the Wii and just want to justify their high priced purchase. Tell me, have you ever played a game with Mario in it or are you scared off by cartoon characters because they're not manly enough?

Nintendo has had very good things.And its current core games are extensions of those.But they arent developing in the same way as its casual and marketing based approach to mass market gaming.Their old franchises are at least keeping the old NIntendo fanboys with the Wii and showing that some core games can sell....at least if they have Mario written over it.

I am not scared of cartoon characters.They just dont motivate me at all.Or at least ,they dont motivate me most of the times.Playing one of these each year or two years is allright ,have a complete lineup based on mascots ,virtual pets and the like is for most adults not interesting at all.Nintendo fans tend to think that others just think they are more manly because playing violent games ,beating prostitutes etc.It doesnt have anything to do with that,ot at least it doesnt have anything to do with that for good amounts of players.Nintendo fans have REAL problems figuring out that many grown up people just dont relate the same way with cartoon characters and official pets as what they did when they were 10 years old.But not ,they CANT get it ,it must be that they want to beat some more prostitutes or play some bald space marine to feel more manly isnt it?

No. It's because we like the games. Do you think that we play Mario games because Mario's cool? No it's because his games are. I've also been a Space Marine and enjoy that stuff too. Beating up prostitutes doesn't appeal to me, but I guess it does to some "men". I just take exception with you saying that the new Wii titles of old existing games are dumbed down. Super Mario Galaxy has gravity effects in it that have never been imagined in other games. This is not dumbing down. Mario Kart Wii has been accused of having a lame AI which won't let you win no matter how good you play when in reality, 95% that you don't win it's because you didn't race well enough this is not dumbing down either. I could argue that "mature" games have been dumbed down and to be honest I'd be pretty much right. Wii Fit might not be your type of game but it shows that Nintendo is still willing to try something different and not stick with the same old same old ( Generic FPS # 975,238) . I DO get it. You don't. This is not a rant against fans of Sony or Microsoft. I do like some those games. It's a rant against your statements.

Right on amp! Really Diomedes1976, don't you see that all your doing is arguing tastes and preferences right now? You are unhappy with the Wii, ok, there is no problem with that at all. In ways I have been somewhat disappointed and in others I have been very impressed. But for you to say that fans of the Wii just don't get it, is completely ignorant. So you are saying that they are wrong and don't enjoy Wii, even though they think they do?  They like what you don't, big deal, get over it, stop attacking them for having an appreciation for what you don't.