So, TPP is not going to happen.

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palou said:

Zkuq said:
Anything that allows corporations to sue nations for changing laws is bad. That makes TTP bad, and as a European citizen, I hope TTIP suffers the same fate. I'm all for free trade, but these trade agreements seem to be mostly about other things.

Again, as I mentionned, corporations can only sue governments for being impartial, discriminatory depending on country of origin. You can ban smoking; you can't ban all European cigarette brands from competing, while allowing your own cigarette companies to prosper. You can put a carbon tax; you can't put a carbon tax on all foreign corporations, while imposing none on your own buisnesses. It's just a way to assure that trade truly stays free.

I'm pretty sure TTIP is going that way, if that makes you happy.

That's not true. Corporations can sue for pretty much anything that they deem would affect their bottom line. A good example of what would have happened is how tobacco companies are suing Australia for the plain packaging act. How is that discriminatory? It's not and yet they're still suing Australia. This is underr another trade treaty (AU and HK) but it would be similar.