So, TPP is not going to happen.

[sethnintendo]

palou said:

sethnintendo said:
Well considering the TPP was so good that they can't state what it is to the general public then I say good riddance. You can't just say hey we have this awesome trade agreement and refuse to share details of what that trade agreement is with its citizens. Have a blind trust that these backdoor dealings are in your favor.

The biggest crock of shit was Nike stating they would bring back jobs to USA if the TPP was passed. That is the biggest bullshit I ever heard in my life. To my knowledge the only major shoe manufacture (besides smaller shoe companies) that build any shoes in USA is New Balance and they only produce their big sizes in USA while smaller sizes are made outside USA. I don't believe the bring back 10,000 jobs one bit from Nike.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/nike-offers-to-bring-10-000-jobs-to-u-s-under-pacific-trade-deal-1431089594

https://ustr.gov/trade-agreements/free-trade-agreements/trans-pacific-partnership/tpp-full-text

 

Trade agreements are never open to the public until almost everything has been established. This is to prevent non-implied interest groups from jeapordizing completion(in this case: China, Russia, who both are being isolated by the deal, for example). This can be done by giving counter offers to specific members, or opening legal cases over specific clauses (which aren't meant to be successfull, and don't need to be to delay the agreement.) I don't believe Nike either. Manufacturing won't return to the US, ever, regardless of what you do.

 

Unless those 10,000 jobs are really to 10,000 robots then I'd maybe believe them.  Trump rose at the right time I suppose.  Same can be said about Bernie.  We haven't had much growth since about the 90s and haven't had really any wage growth in the past 30 years or so.  Free trade is almost a sin word in USA now.  Easy to see the resentment when a lot of manufacturing has gone to China, Mexico or any other low cost labor country.  Hell, even Cisco is pulling out of USA for the most part and going heavy into Mexico.  Luckily, the plant I work at is taking in other products from other plant closure in the USA so the Cisco pulling out isn't going to result in huge layoffs at my plant besides the routine layoffs they have every couple of months.