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SvennoJ on 20 November 2016
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Teeqoz said:
thismeintiel said:

Why?  Because it has no UHD drive?  I don't think people give a crap about that.  At least not any significant number.  And the Pro's position on several online retailers bestseller charts proves that.  Will the PS5 have one?  If UHD Blurays actually take off, most likely.  Right now it's just a little extra bonus, but nothing that's really going to sway people one way or another.

I believe some people are influenced by the inclusion of a UHD drive, if only because it allows Microsoft to say stuff like "Only console that can play 4K blu-rays". I mean, the fact that the XBO outsold the PS4 in september and october alone is proof that Microsoft did a better job with the XBO S than Sony did with the Slim. As for the Pro, I personally feel (though that's just me personally) that Sony would've been better off with having a stronger Pro releasing later. Now, yes, if the Pro has a kick-ass NPD in november, I'll gladly admit that I was wrong, and that the september and october win could be written off as people waiting for the PS4 Pro. (and I hope that's the case. My Sony stocks will rise more by Playstation doing well than my Microsoft stocks will rise by Xbox doing well simply because Playstation is a much bigger part of Sony's business than Xbox is of Microsoft's. :-3)

Microsoft does a better job with marketing. The 4K gaming, 4K streaming, 4K UHD player is a great marketing mantra. Next to the ps4 pro which also says 4K gaming, 4k streaming, it seems like the better deal, cheaper and a 4K UHD player. While the ps4 slim doesn't do 4K at all.

Ofcourse when you look at the actual facts:
Most 4K tvs have more lag while displaying a 4K signal than 1080p, so upscaling to 4K just for the sake of it gets you worse performance.
HDR is the real differentiator and for now ps4 has a lot more HDR titles, and allows HDR at 1080p as well.

Sony should be advertising HDR, or advertise at all. I haven't seen any pro or psvr commercials. I've only seen XBox One S commercials.


The success of the XBox One S with the Scorpio on the horizon is interesting though. If ps4 pro is not going to do much, I'll take that as a clear message the masses are not interested in mid gen refreshes. I'm waiting for Scorpio, yet I guess I'm in the minority.