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Nem on 17 November 2016
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StarDoor said:
Nem said:

You continue with the same overpropotionate alarmist rhetoric. Immigrants may need social support at the start, but they do not use up the majority of the social system, quite the contrary.

Assaults happened in one occasion across many many thousands of refugee's. You condemn them all for the actions of only a few. Again, rhetoric without sense of proprotion. The balance is probably the same or lower than a native doing the same thing. Actually, if we are talking about the US. How about those shootings? Was it immigrants?

No, its not a fallacy. Saying that all your troubles come from immigrants and saying that sending them away will solve them is the fallacy.

The latest refugee wave was actually cause by Russia, go figure. Because the US was passive. See, you can;t put your hand on the cake and then pretend you didn't. The cake will just fall appart. The middle east is indeed the problem, and that is where it can be solved. Not with extremism.

Oh and btw, two can play that game: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-news-second-eu-referendum-leave-voters-regret-bregret-choice-in-millions-a7113336.html

The english know they gone and messed up. They were also brainwashed (the prone to) into thinking that someone else is the cause of all their problems. It is incredibly easy to blame others for your problem. Its difficult to get up and solve them together. 

What is most funny is that this is exactly what Hitler did when he rose to power. But alas, too many people are still just too easy to manipulate.

The only way you could think that it's over-proportionate is if you ignore statistics. Do the native populations of European countries create no-go zones where the police can't enforce laws because of how dangerous it is?

Yes, you are using a straw-man fallacy if you think that ending immigration is the same as kicking out all immigrants already here.

Your Brexit article was published two months earlier than mine at a time when the stock market was down. It's rebounded, so obviously no Leave voters have any regrets anymore.

You are so ideologically blinded that you can't even accept that immigration could have any downsides whatsoever. Furthermore, saying that immigration causes problems is not the same thing as saying that ALL problems are caused by immigration.

The only person being manipulated is you, because for your entire life you've been taught by propagandists how wonderful immigrants are and how diversity is our greatest strength. Now, when you encounter conflicting information, you just dismiss it.

Wow... i do believe the one that is blinded is yourself.

The sheer disregard for the consequences is astounding. I am idiologically blinded for defending equal rights for everyone? Sure, that must be it. I will never be unblinded into thinking racism and discriminatory behaviour is moral.

I am not beeig manipulated because i am not coerced into voting on something simply based on my own selfish needs, but the needs of the many, wich btw, i determine myself. Don't need a politian to tell them to me. I am educated and cultural. Not stuck in some vision of the past that is wrongly viewd as best. The past had constant wars. The present has been many times better.

The way for a better society is forward, not back. There may be some setbacks like this Trump election, but progress will continue to happen, wether theres a few bumps in the way or not.

In both regards we will soon find out what happens. Same thing with the brexit. I guess by then a new politian will come in and tell you how much better it was in the past and you vote for him again. This is like taking candy from a baby.

And by the way, your article about the brexit is one persons opinion, not an actual poll. But of course, you aren't easy to influence am i right? ^^