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StarDoor said:
Nem said:

This comes back to what i said. Your pov is dangerous. You are here outloud blaming others for your problems. You say they weaken the economy. That is simply not true. You talk about them like an organised entity out to get your stuff. That is not true. Make the streets unsafe, not true again. 

This is just like saying that every black guy is a thief and we should deport them. No, this is not the kind of values a society or anyone should thrive for. 

Besides, what do you think this does? A western power blows up their homes and when they come looking for asylum you say they are evil and should go back? This will lead people to desperation. Desperate people do desperate things. THAT is dangerous.

I honestly completely disagree with you. 

Look, i don't know politics in every country. I'm more familiar with Portugal, and the party you just mentioned probably doesnt even get 1% of the votes. Doesn't even have a single deputy in the assemble nor is close to getting one. So... i dunno. Though i do know that there are oppotunistic people that will try to use this alarmist rethoric to reel in guys like you. But not to worry because just like with brexit, everyone will regret it soon enough. 

No one is blaming the immigrants themselves. We blame the traitorous (Left-wing) elites in our countries that let these people in and silence opposition.

Yes, they absolutely weaken the economy. They don't have to be an organized entity to be out for our stuff; they're just acting in their own self-interest, which is to receive aid from European and American taxpayers.

They do make the streets unsafe. Ever heard of no-go zones? How about the Cologne sexual assaults?

Saying this is "just like deporting every black guy" is a fallacy. We know that, on average, these migrants are more criminally-inclined and less economically productive than the rest of the population. We don't have any moral obligation to accept them, espeically not when so many of them spit on our hospitality.

And once again, who do you think controls the Western powers blowing up their homes? The elite. Most Europeans and Americans don't want to blow up the rest of the world, and they certainly don't want to then invite those people into their countries, because now those migrants have greivances against the Western countries that they're entering. Is it any wonder that there's so much home-grown terrorism among Middle Easterners and North Africans in Europe?

Not to mention the fact that most of these "refugees" aren't even refugees at all:

https://www.rt.com/news/330284-economic-migrants-eu-refugees/

Oh, and one more thing: No one regrets Brexit.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/britain-no-regrets-brexit-polling-8882527

You continue with the same overpropotionate alarmist rhetoric. Immigrants may need social support at the start, but they do not use up the majority of the social system, quite the contrary.

Assaults happened in one occasion across many many thousands of refugee's. You condemn them all for the actions of only a few. Again, rhetoric without sense of proprotion. The balance is probably the same or lower than a native doing the same thing. Actually, if we are talking about the US. How about those shootings? Was it immigrants?

No, its not a fallacy. Saying that all your troubles come from immigrants and saying that sending them away will solve them is the fallacy.

The latest refugee wave was actually cause by Russia, go figure. Because the US was passive. See, you can;t put your hand on the cake and then pretend you didn't. The cake will just fall appart. The middle east is indeed the problem, and that is where it can be solved. Not with extremism.

Oh and btw, two can play that game: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-news-second-eu-referendum-leave-voters-regret-bregret-choice-in-millions-a7113336.html

The english know they gone and messed up. They were also brainwashed (the prone to) into thinking that someone else is the cause of all their problems. It is incredibly easy to blame others for your problem. Its difficult to get up and solve them together. 

What is most funny is that this is exactly what Hitler did when he rose to power. But alas, too many people are still just too easy to manipulate.