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Nuvendil on 03 November 2016
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Soundwave said:
Nuvendil said:

My point was that the Wii U could have had Pokemon and maybe it would have eeked out a paltry 18 to 20mil.  Cause no ammount of quality content matters if your ads are uninformative (like most of the Wii U's ads), embarrassing (everything from launch to mid 2014 and still at times beyond), clumsy (almost all of them), generic (all the 2012 and early 2013 ads), or absent (the Wii U had incredibly, inexcusably sparse promotion).  The 3DS had better everything frankly.  Like I said, doesn't matter much what the Switch has, if it has the same marketing muscle as the Wii U, you may as well burry it now.  if it has an aggressive ad campaign, I don't think it needs Pokemon.  

Also, what 16, 32, 128 thing?  If you mean the rumors concerning the size of cartridges, internal storage, and SD card support, consider these things: 1) I guarantee you the 16 gig being the max is horseshit (Breath of the Wild is looking like it would barely fit on a 20, 16 is out of the question and MonolithSoft, an internal studio, struggled with the Wii U's capacity on disc, and besides it would make NO sense to make that the maximum), 2) if the games are playing from the physical medium (the PS4 and Xbone do not), then the internal storage doesn't matter and again this is a rumor and unconfirmed, 3) this is a rumor, plain and simple and see point 2.  Basically, wait till we have confirmation cause I am betting 2 out of 3 of those will be wrong at the very least.  

3DS had shitty marketing too honestly. It's not like 3DS ads were mind blowing. 

Marketing is overrated, you need to have a genuinely desirable product.

Wii U was ... boring. A screen on the controller? Why not a cup holder too, it'd be about as useful. 

Wow...just...what?  Tell that to Activision - Blizzard, EA, Ubisoft, pretty much 70% of the AAA games industry that have been thriving on the hype machine of powerhouse marketing for years now.  If you think marketing is overrated, you are seriously out of touch.  Obviously you need a product that can be *presented* as desirable, but the Wii U had that.  It was well within the ability to spin as something desirable.  Nintendo just failed utterly.

And the 3DS didn't have amazing marketing but it was informative, fairly wide spread, highlighted the growing backlog well, and was usually not repulsively embarrassing.  The Wii U's marketing was in orders of magnitude *worse*.  At times it was just a couple steps up from the original Earthbound campaign.  And more importantly, it only got marketing on rare occassions.  Whether you think marketing is important or not (it is), one universal truth is that customers can't buy a product they don't know exists.  

Oh, and a touchscreen had immense potential to augment and evolve the conventional controller in a meaningful way.  Problem is Nintendo 1) shoved the Wii U out when it was clearly not ready (seriously, the current gamepad SCREAMS prototype design) and 2) Nintendo never committed to pursuing a meaningful evolution and instead bounced back and forth between meaningless gimmicks and basically not using it at all.  Shame really.