| Captain_Yuri said: I feel like there is a miss communication some where but I can't seem to put my finger on it. I did say I was going to stop replying until you posted something that needed replying and it certainly turned out it did need some clearing up. I did say "lets not get into that again" so I think I will do that. I just wanted to make sure that there wasn't some confusion cause those do sometimes happen. I don't think the people who don't care as much for VA should stay out of the discussion cause I think it is more meaningful that way and it will show more prespectives. Otherwise it would just mostly be a one sided thing everyone agrees with everyone sorta deal. And this is exactly the thread for that due to what the VAs want and what the Devs do not have because it is something to compare... I mean, this is the internet so if you expect to have a thread with that type of a viewpoint, then you are in the wrong place. And if my viewpoint is not on topic or not related to the topic, you can let the mods decide that but I am pretty sure it is... |
Probably is, but I wouldn't let that get in the way of things outside this topic.
"I don't think the people who don't care as much for VA should stay out of the discussion cause I think it is more meaningful that way and it will show more prespectives. "
The thing with that is you are just getting a for and against party together in a single room, with the against party never wanting to change their stance to for. We've seen this play out for centuries with other topics and discussions. I doubt the majority that aren't for VA's on here are suddenly going to sway to the side of being for VA's, it hasn't changed in the past enough to see a bigger difference, it's just shown that some here still don't care for the situation VA's face, apart from telling them to get a "real" job or do something else, or as we've talked about before, devs and VA's in the same boat.
I get that you want to hear two sides, but one side wants to see something happen, the other doesn't, the one that doesn't offers no further discussion other than reasons not to progress (which in turn works against general progression since they want less change and thus become a problem).
We didn't need to compare devs with the VA situation though, that wasn't even warranted to be tossed in, because this is a situation for the VA's. The devs as JEMC noted talk about crap they face when they quit a job, they don't bother with a union the way VA's have and as such we are on the topic of VA's, their union and what they want. Their changes can also lead to devs eventually growing more spine to create their own union that can in turn demand changes to benefit their party.
See I want VA's to get what they want, and I also want devs to get what they want, but as things are right now, it is on the VA side of things that the topic is on about.
Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.
