I would still vote Democrat even if Hillary was the worst human being on earth...

[Landguy]

Torillian said:

Landguy said:

It's both.  The Presidential position itself is a figurehead for the whole country and their party.  If the person is a piece of garbage, then you are chooing to have that person personally reflect you to the rest of the world.  If you believe that every Democrat is a crooked liar who doesn't care about managing the information that is given to them, you are wrong.  

Sure, Hillary says that she is pro choice.  But what is pro choice going to matter as a president?  Not one thing.  The president doesn't get involved in that at all.  The president gets involved in international negotiations, minor military actions, and general perceptions to the outside world.  That's why choosing the person based on their actual personality and track record in those types of things matters.  Unfortunately, the mass media panders to the lowest common denominator.  They will talk about pro choice/black lives matter/ and social programs in regards to the presidential race even though they are the farthest from what the job really is.  

But the president does have veto powers so if you vote against your interests because of personality for president you leave the door open for the people that do actually make those laws to do so unopposed in a direction that you don't agree with.  Get in Trump and now congress can easily put through laws that would never make it through a democrat president unopposed.  

Sure, foreign diplomacy is what takes up most of the president's time, but they do have influence over social issues at home as well and that shouldn't be ignored.  

I mentioned that a president does have veto powers on most of the legislation, that is unless a supermajority agree.   As you probably know, most laws require many amendments/"pork bellies" added to them to meet all of the special interests needs.  That is the unfortunate system flaw that we have.  

The Presidents influence is very minimal in the last 20 years or so.  There are few laws that get all of a particular party to even vote for them.  If a sitting black president can make no headway on things to the point that a new movement was started since he became president(Black Lives Matter) to change laws to protect black people from the system, there is no further proof needed.  It has to be the right leader that inspires people and other leaders to make change happen.  It doesn't come from a political party, it comes from an inspirational leader that people can believe in.  Obama has proved that even with a democratic majority(his first term) and ideals that fit his party and the medias agenda, making change isn't easy.  He just isn't inspirational enough to get people behind him and move the needle.

So, the president as a person is most important, the party is always second.  There is a reason they call it Commander in Chief.