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bonzobanana said:
I don't quite understand how the american system works but on face value (possibly hopelessly wrong) it seems like obamacare is some sort of subsidised health insurance that still makes heavy use of expensive private health care with incredibly inflated prices which would dictate high insurance costs that need to be subsidised to be more reasonable.

Surely a different approach is needed where health care is more reasonably priced. I don't know how the police, education and other services are run but assume they are government owned and run in some instances.

Perhaps somewhere in the US publicly owned health care should be tested and perfected before rolling out nation wide even if that process takes 20 years at least future americans even poor ones will have access to good health care.

I have to say I find it offensive that children don't have access to free health care. I can understand more telling adults that they have to organise their own health care but not children. Maybe that is where public healthcare should start. Assuming there isn't free health care for children already, I've not done the research.

The first problem is that neither side wants the other side to win.  Their first allegence is to their party, not the country.  Each side would rather the other side fail, even if it means everyone suffers.

The second is that years of propaganda have made "socialism" a curse word, despite the fact that many such functions are already an accepted part of our government.  Republicans won't go near it for fear of their constituents freaking out and even many Democrats shy away.

Therefore anything that passes has to be a half-ass compromise that doesn't piss off powerful lobyists too much.

So, basically, it's pretty much hopeless.