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Miyamotoo on 21 October 2016
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potato_hamster said:
Miyamotoo said:

Actually yes, Switch seems very interesting and cool (I will say way more interesting than 3DS and Wii U) and definitely some people will like idea having home console and handheld in one, so yes, definitely some people who didn't buy 3DS or Wii U will buy Switch. For instance Switch would be great secondary console for some PS4/XB1 owners.

I know plenty of people who have Wii U and dont have 3DS, I am actualy one of them. Point is that you have some people that like more handheld gaming and you have some people that like more home console gaming, and Switch will offer bouth.

I don't think Switch will be fail at all, in worst case it will have mediocre sales, but with right marketing and pricing it could have very good sales.

Sure. Some people will like the idea. But to the average gamer that passed on the Wii U (ie. the vast majority of them) what is the added appeal of the Switch? What makes this worth it where the WIi U and 3DS failed. You have to argue that there's a significant portion of the population that is saying "I totally would have spent (rumored) $50-$100 more than I refused to pay for a Wii U just so I can take the Wii U's controller on the go with me". I simply refuse to believe there are tens of millions of people that think that. Sure it might be a decent secondary console, but the Wii U was a decent secondary console, and we know that people didn't care about it.

When you boil it down, when it comes to consumer interest, the Wii U was the least interesting home console Nintendo has ever made. Instead of Nintendo scrapping what obviously didn't work for them, they decided "I know, what we need to do is take all of the processing power of the base unit, and put it in the gamepad, make it cartridge based, and make the controls on the side removable." Many people are calling this "the Wii U that Nintendo wanted to make 4 years ago", and that makes me cringe. Every hear the saying "insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results". To me, that's what's Nintendo's doing. This is the 2017 version of a 2012 console that no one wanted. Don't forget that.

As for this being more appealing, the only demographic I see this being more appealing to is the current Nintnedo fan base, because now they only need to buy one console to play all of the games they want to play instead of two. But clearly, if that is the case, that could easily lead to less sales for Nintendo instead of more.

Will it sell more than the Wii U? Undoubtedly. It has to. Despite what Nintendo might say, this console is replacing two devices, and not one. They're aiming for more sales than both of those devices combined, which frankly, was a step backwards for Nintendo.

 

Miyamotoo said:

You realise that New 3DS XL is $199 and that is still selling pretty good, right!?

The Switch is being marketed as a home console. That means there are expectations people have of home consoles. There is a difference in perceieved value. A home console that struggles can't match performance of the $299 is worth less in the eyes of the consumer. Think about the X1 vs the PS4 on release. Not only was the PS4 cheaper, it was more powerful, so the X1 struggled. People perceieved the X1 as being less valuable. The Switch is in the same boat. Like it or not, Nintendo is competing with Sony and Microsoft for space under people's television. The Switch at $299 is not going to fly.

If you want answer for that you need to be aware resons why WIi U failed. Wii U had terrible and misunderstood marketing (lotsa people are not aware at all that is new console, but some addon for Wii), not upaling gamepad and concept, high price (higher price than very popular Xbox360/PS3 at that moment), weak launch and 1st year lineup, software drought...Wii U was already dead and without 3rd party support after 1st year. Wii U was really bloody mess in every way and thas why is worst selling Nintendo console, and in most cases was bought only buy Nintendo hard core fans.

Now we have Switch, trailer was very clean and easy to understand, Switch looks much more interesting and cooler than Wii U, concept is interesting and easy to understand, reactions are very postive so far. Swithc will have very strong lineup, with ok price (IMO it will be $299) and good marketing Swithch can definatly be popular.

I will be way more appealing than Wii U for everyone, NIntendo fans, mobile users, casuals, kids and families, secondary console for PS4/XB1 users..

Well we relly dont know for how much sales Nintendo is aiming, but definatly they not aiming just to pass Wii U numbers. :)

 

Despite Nintendo PR talk, did you actually look Switch trailer, you can see that even in trailer Switch is used more outside home than in home. Switch is hybrid, you can use like real home console or like real handheld, PS4/XB1 are just home consoles. Yes PS4/XB1 will be more powerful but Switch gives consumers much more options, they can use Switch in whatever way they want and whenever they want, that's definitely advantage over PS4/XB1 and make it more difrent product compared to them.