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RolStoppable said: Yes, Switch is not a dumbed down PC. Hence why numerous Western third parties express sentiments like Gearbox. There is no such thing as coming to an agreement, all Nintendo can realistically do in such a case is wait for the third party in question to change their mind, because Switch isn't going to turn into a dumbed down PC somewhere down the line. The reason why I say that consumers do not want a dumbed down PC from Nintendo is sales data. Those vocal people you speak of were even more vocal during the Wii days, and their demands were obviously contradicted by sales data. It's not just that the Wii sold well, it's also that Nintendo's two worst-selling home consoles happen to be the ones that are closest to what a PS/Xbox is. In order for Nintendo to offer more games for their system, they would have to make a dumbed down PC to appease a lot of Western third parties; I think we can agree on that. But by making such a device, Nintendo would lose consumers because it's not what the market wants from them (sales data trumps forum voices). That's why the attempt to offer more games can lose consumers; I call it attempt because the historical data shows that a console that doesn't sell well will quickly lose third party support. Since consumers do not want a dumbed down PC from Nintendo, it stands to reason that ports of PC games aren't a high priority for Nintendo consumers. And that's why Japanese support is more important than Western support, because it's more in line with what is in demand. |
@ bolded: Of course there is such a thing as coming to an agreement. Just because a developer might have been hoping that the Nintendo Switch would be more like a regular console like the PS4 and Xbox One doesn't mean they are going to whine and throw a tantrum and decide not to support it out of spite because they didn't get what they wanted. Like I said, they just have to deal with it. Maybe they'll say they don't want to support it because they had hoped it would be something else, but it is up to Nintendo to change that, not wait on the developer in hopes of them chaning their mind over time. Developer's primary goal when making games is simple: money. Without making money no games can be made. When a company makes a system, it is their job to sell that system to developers and show them why it is worth supporting. Which is why, as I also said already, Nintendo needs to keep in talks with these developers to convince them to support their system, not start burning down bridges.
The idea that the only way Nintendo can gain the support of those developers is to give them exactly what they want is absurd, with enough talk i'm positive they could eventually come to an agreement even if there was a really stubborn developer out there. This is an industry, I highly doubt a developer is going to say no out of spite when there's money to be made by supporting that system. If they did that would just be foolish anyway.
If you honestly don't see that and you truly think that a developer wouldn't listen or change their mind no matter what then we'll just have to agree to disagree.
There is such a thing as Nintendo offering something unique and still being able to get good third party support, just because we haven't seen it yet doesn't mean it is impossible or that developers are unwilling to change their mind, the examples you listed are all due to Nintendo's fuck ups in some way.
The Wii sold the most but still missed out on a majority of third party support because it was underpowered as fuck. Had it been the same power level as PS3 and Xbox 360 you could be damn sure no developer would miss out on a 100m install base, it probably would have got everything like GTA as well.
The Wii U was just a massive fuck up in general with horrible marketing, being released way too late and underpowered yet again, and general confusion of the public not even knowing what the damn thing is.
I don't know much about the era of the Gamecube or why that failed so I can't comment on that one but I have heard things about how it went with different discs where as the PS2 went with optical media or stuff like that.
Just because Nintendo makes something unique it isn't a result of third party developers just not wanting to support it, there is always some mistake made with those consoles that just give reason for developers not to support it. I would hope that Nintendo won't make any with the Nintendo Switch this time around.
