If you had enough evidence to know that God is real, would you love Him or hate Him or what?

[Eagle367]

setsunatenshi said:

Eagle367 said:

Except there is a huge difference between a father and the Creator of Everything.its like comparing a snail's speed to the speed of light. Also I do care and its a fact that He gave you the ability to have a will and freedom and he can just as easily make you do whatever He wants. The only reason to warn people of the afterlife is because we care. I disprove of physically harming or murdering people just on the basis of belief. So you chose to try to defy the undefiable so He punishes you He is omnipotent He can do anything and He created the perception if morality that we have so in context it does not matter. The only way to know whether atheists, Christians, Muslims, Jews or Buddhists or Hindus or anyone else are right is to die. You'll know where you belong and whether you were right after you die and if atheists are correct than you wont since no more consciousness. There is no other physical way to prove or disprove God is to die and by His permission return to warn the people or if God directly or indirectly speaks to you but no one would believe you anyway

The examples i gave stand on their own, i don't believe might makes right. The same way like i'm much more powerful than a dog, it doesn't give me the moral right to torture it. The same way any god you can come up with has no right to turture me for a limited time, nevermind eternity.

At the end of the day i know all this is fan fiction you guys have created and taught yourselves to believe it. But for me this is quite simple, if you really think there's an afterlife and you'll be super happy there, why do you seek doctors when you're sick? Why do you eat and drink? Why don't you take risks with your life in hope to jump to the new one asap? Why do you get sad when a loved one dies?

 

The reality is that at the end of the day, deep down you know it's all fantasy. So you cling on to this life as it's the most precious thing you have. You cry when a loved one dies because you know they don't exist anymore and you will never see them again.

 

(Don't take this as me recommending you actually kill yourself, i honestly hope you have a great life and enjoy it to the fullest)

I actually am not that interested in this life. I don't want to live long. That aside, suicide is forbidden and you have to seek treatment for all and every problem at least according to my religion. There is a difference between being superior to things and creating them. It's like you killing people in GTA because technically they are not what you call living beings.  But if some way, the characters in game have feelings, you'd still kill them regardless. It's like a game creator who does whatever he wants to his creations in game. That's the closest example to give, not because of superiority, but because to insignificance. Even if characters in game have feelings, the game creator will do whatever the hell he wants with them because he created them and in the end can create more. If God exists, then humans and all His creations are insignificant and if that God is immortal and everlasting, then he probably has created countless universes with countless creations and has no boundary in time as time is just a perception, so He can see everything happening at the same time. Why then would He care about nobodies like humans. Perhaps He is just messing with us and created us for fun or perhaps He just really wants us to follow Him or perhaps He created us, but just observes us and doesn't care what happens. In the end that dog is signifacnt to you, since He is a part of your world, galaxy and universe, while you and everyone else and the universe or even the multiverse, if it exists is insignificant to God since its inconsequential to Him. He can start from scratch create another universe and do whatever we can't even comprehend.

Also going back to the surviving part, many people fought for their country or religion, not the terrorists, and died on the battlefield since they believe it'll grant them heaven. We in our religion don't automatically have all our sins forgiven like the Christians so we are responsible for each and every deed we do. Killing ourselves is like leaving a blank test so you fail regardless. Life is a test for us so we have to strive to be better humans every day and make the difficult, but right calls, or at least try to, that's why we don't just do whatever we want like alcohol, drugs, random sex, etc. Those who do those things are just not good practitioners and as you said, care too much about this world. We are taught to ponder over death as much as we can to remind ourselves of the limits of this world and this life is our only chance to  pass this test. If we stop thinking about death, then we'll get too involved in this world and forget our responsibilties. But in the end only death can confirm whether I am right, or you are right or some other people and in the end I can't change your mind and you can't change mine, so live your life and remember death, as you might not believe in the afterlife but you do believe in being a good human being.

P.S: Wy the hell do people want more of this stupid life? If you can tell me then reply. And I am not suicidal in any way or form, just baffled by the masses.