Gaming as fictitious as Religion?

[WagnerPaiva]

JWeinCom said:

To ask again, did you decide that you were going to believe in god and Jesus?  If you wanted to, could you believe otherwise?  

To me, it's simply a fact, the way that 1+1=2.  I couldn't convince myself that christianity is true any more than I can convince myself that 1+1=3.  I would assume your belief in christianity is the same, but maybe it's different.  

Keep in mind that I was never really taught to believe in any of this.   I imagine it might be like a gay person coming out of the closet.  If you were raised to believe that being gay was morally wrong, or that there are negative consequences to it, you might try to deny that you're gay.   You still are gay, but you might try to convince yourself otherwise.  Likewise, if you were raised to believe atheism was immoral or that there were negative consequences to not believing, you may be in denial about atheism.  You have no control over whether or not you actually believe in it, but you may try to lie to yourself, or go along with the rituals of religion without really believing in them.

If god was real would I worship him?  It depends.  I assume that you mean god as he is described in the bible.  In that case, yes I would worship him.  I would worship him in the same way that North Koreans worship Kim Jong Un.  I agree with Hitchens that the character in the bible is not worthy or worship.  But, I guess I just don't have the fortitude of Hitchens.  If there was someone who was had the power to torture me for all eternity, I'd probably do whatever they said.  My safety is more important to me than my pride.

Yes, yes, I was a atheist till 30 years old, but neve though lightly of it, always pondered about these things.

I became a christian because I had cold hard evidence of supernatural evil, continuous, and then cold hard evidence of being saved from it. I will not get in details. But I think any kind of evidence can be considered as not enough, so it was a decision.

At one time we have to look at the evidence and say "it is enough evidence for me, I made my mind, God exists/do not exist".

At some point we become convinced in one way or another. To me it was a decision, and, of course, as all born again christians, I started to fell a supernatural gigantic love for God and Jesus Christ, like a son love his Father.