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WagnerPaiva said:
JWeinCom said:

Eternal life exists or doesn't exist.  My opinion doesn't have any impact on that.

Of course. When one is a atheist he of course believes that there is no eternal life and, therefore, after death nothing remains. He also believes that no one created the Universe.

When one believes in the eternal life, he of course has some kind of theistic or supernatural world view.

Either way, neither belieth shapes the universe, it is what it is. 

If the theist is wrong, he will be a fool after death, but he will not know it.

If the atheist is wrong, he will be a fool after death, and he will know it.

Either way, it is a hard step to take and I respect either decisions one takes. But, of course, as a christian, I wish everyone believe and where saved.

Saved from what? A atheist would say "saved from nothing" and, by this world view, he would be correct. But you know my beliefs.

Fascinating subject, but I do disagree when you guys say it is easy to decide. I think it is a hard decision either way. 

Edit: I always was fascinated by the famous atheist Christopher Hitchens, as he stated that even if God existed he would not bow to Him, cause he hates Him and thinks this hipothetic God is not worthy of it.

I never had a chance to ask that to other atheists "What would you do if God was real, would you worship Him?" 

But I was always mermerized by the boldness of Hitchens answer. This is not a answer one give in lightness, and he was brave enough to not dodge the question either. It would be very easy to say "I will not answer cause I KNOW there is no god"

To ask again, did you decide that you were going to believe in god and Jesus?  If you wanted to, could you believe otherwise?  

To me, it's simply a fact, the way that 1+1=2.  I couldn't convince myself that christianity is true any more than I can convince myself that 1+1=3.  I would assume your belief in christianity is the same, but maybe it's different.  

Keep in mind that I was never really taught to believe in any of this.   I imagine it might be like a gay person coming out of the closet.  If you were raised to believe that being gay was morally wrong, or that there are negative consequences to it, you might try to deny that you're gay.   You still are gay, but you might try to convince yourself otherwise.  Likewise, if you were raised to believe atheism was immoral or that there were negative consequences to not believing, you may be in denial about atheism.  You have no control over whether or not you actually believe in it, but you may try to lie to yourself, or go along with the rituals of religion without really believing in them.

If god was real would I worship him?  It depends.  I assume that you mean god as he is described in the bible.  In that case, yes I would worship him.  I would worship him in the same way that North Koreans worship Kim Jong Un.  I agree with Hitchens that the character in the bible is not worthy or worship.  But, I guess I just don't have the fortitude of Hitchens.  If there was someone who was had the power to torture me for all eternity, I'd probably do whatever they said.  My safety is more important to me than my pride.