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superchunk said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Secondly, DxO's smartphone ratings are questionable at best. When the HTC 10 was being announced, HTC used DxO's benchmark site. DxO gave the HTC 10's camera the same score as the Galaxy S7's camera. But guess what? When the phones came out, in virtually every other site, the Galaxy S7's camera performed a lot better than the HTC 10's camera ever could.

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/139069-dxo-mark-is-another-smartphone-benchmark-you-can-ignore

And also not to mention that is only 1 site... They don't govern whether it's the best camera or not. And even if it was, it does trade blows with the S7's camera which sits at 88 on their site vs 89. And the S7 has OIS which the pixel doesn't hence in real world tests that isn't produced by a questionable site, it should be a lot more stable.

The articles I posted stated the same thing as you did regarding the HTC 10 and stated we'll need to wait for real-world comparisons, which is why I also provided a lot of sample pics.

Additionally, your link says the rating has merit, but they prefer how the camera functions... i.e. its usefullness not just the score. Obviously, we'll have to wait to see how its usefullness compares to what Sammy uses in its cameras (and frankly I think iPhone does a tremendous job with this... their UX is fantastic). Using my wife's S6... I don't think it is all that great. iPhone UX is certainly better IMO and better than stock Android as well. Guess we'll have to wait and see how Pixel handles this.

As for your repeated OIS, http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2016/10/04/google_s_new_pixel_phone_features_an_impressive_camera.html

We'll need to wait-and-see when it launches.

Yea but sample pics aren't exactly what I would call solid proof. There are tons of sample pics from tons of other smartphones that aren't even at the top which look great. Doesn't mean they are...

The rating does have some merit but it is questionable none the less. I highly doubt a camera without OIS is more useful than a camera with OIS... Not sure whats so bad about Samsung's Camera app either considering the high praise about it from virtually every reviewer. Or is it just "I don't like it cause I don't like Samsung" sorta deal.

And yes, we all saw google's press event. And we all know EIS is a thing that has been around for a while. There is a difference between google's internal testing vs real world and same goes for every other smartphone. The Galaxy S7 has both EIS and OIS where as Pixel only has EIS. A great version of EIS certainly but it still only has EIS. Optical image stablization will always produce more better results than Electronic will due to the fact that the camera itself is moving in OIS. EIS also generally has a loss in image quality and resolution comparatively, specially in low light. But sure, we shall see as the phone continues to lack things other flagships have...

https://www.motionelements.com/blog/articles/eis-or-ois-your-guide-to-image-stabilization-systems



                  

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