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Peh said:
o_O.Q said:
"atheists" from what i've experenced are some of the most fanatical believers and followers that i've ever seen. it makes their constant desire to bash people who have a religion all the more ironic to me. the truth is that this stems from a flaw that all people have, even if it doesn't push you to pursue a religion it can push you to pursue some other type of irrational belief - like the ideology that men and women are the same baring influences from their environment

*sigh* ...

Atheism is not a believe. So,.. "most fanatical believers" is pretty much wrong. As there are blacksheeps in christianity, islam and everwhere else, be it religion, societies or whatever, there are also idiots who push atheism way too far. Those are called militant atheists. Atheism has no doctrine. It teaches nothing. It's just a position. Therefor that actually has nothing to do with atheism itself, even if those people are promoting atheism in an agressive way.

 

i'm saying that in the void that religion generally fills in some people i've noticed that many atheist place beliefs that are just as irrational as those of religious people

beliefs that at times ironically are quite similar such as utopianism

the ultimate point i'm making is that this thing that atheists do in trying to separate themselves from religious people as being more rational or whatever is oftentimes absolutely baseless

if all relgion died tomorrow  the flaw in people that makes them pursue irrantional beliefs to begin with is not going to disappear and rationality is itself a relative thing anyway