Nintendo and Sony have to bring out Handheld/Phone hybrids in 2017.

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Captain_Yuri said:
"Pixel is going to be the out right dominate phone in Android land. Samsung is in seroius trouble with the Galaxy line"

Lol wut? How on earth did you come to that conclusion? Pixel isn't even targeting Android market share and even if it were, it won't make a dent on Samsung's Market share just like the Nexus line didn't do anything.

Anyway, mobile is a coin flip that is dominated by both Apple and Samsung. All other companies are losing market share either to them or against each other. The only way to succeed is to have something that will truly set the device apart from the rest while ensuring that it doesn't look terrible. And of course, they gotta market the hell out of it. Its hard to predict if either will be successful or if either will even give it a go but I would say Nintendo with their IPs is in the best position as long as they price it right. But even then, it is essh worthy. We shall see.

Pixel is not Nexus. Pixel is Google in full control of the Hardware and the OS. They are going to make Pixel the only choice on Android, with built in functionatly, that is only available on Pixel. All Google Play Store software will be optimized for Pixel, and the rest will be good luck. Samsung was smart enoug to see this coming and started Tizen a few years back, as a way to move on after Android. 

And how is that much different than what the Nexus had? Sure, Google can select the hardware but the Nexus 6P had flagship specs when it released just like Pixel does with Google's OS support and how well did that do? Oh thats right, didn't even make a dent. Not to mention that Pixel's hardware specs are standard flagship specs just like the Nexus was (just obviously the newest itteration). Google didn't make a custom CPU/GPU/etc for the Pixel. There isn't anything unique inside the Pixel that makes it different in terms of specs that the Nexus didn't have at the time of its relative release.

"All Google Play Software will be optimized for Pixel." What??? Why would all Google Play software will be optimized for a phone that doesn't even have market share? Developers on the Play Store won't do that because how would they make money from that? Just targeting a phone that doesn't even have much market share at all. And why would Google make Pixel the only choice on Android? That doesn't even make any sense. Pixel isn't even made by Google, the manufacturer is HTC... Google just tells HTC the designs and etc. And HTC has their own phones to think about. If Google made Pixel the only phone on Android, then HTC wouldn't even make phones for them because it will cripple HTC's own phones as well as every other manufacturer. Makes zero sense

The big key to Sony and Nintendo entering the market is their home consoles. Sony especially can build the device right off the back of PS4. A new handheld and Phone that runs all PS4 software at 540p and checkerboard upscales to 1080p would be an awesome device, and would have home and mobile PlayStation working together to build a massive userbase. This is the way they can get support for Android and iOS ports for banking, trading, home security, fitness, etc., etc. apps on the devices.

What on earth? Smartphones aren't even x86, how are they gonna manage that?

The thing to remember is that they don't have to light the world on fire. They still make consoles even though they only sell 20 million a year. Windows PC sells 300 million unit s a year. However, consoles are specialized computers that have a focus on gaming and entertainment, and bring in billions even on the very small number of sales. 

In that same light. If Sony and Nintendo could move 20 million units a year compared to the 200 million iphones, then they will be doing just fine. In fact more than fine, becuase the profit per customer on 20 million phones would be substantialy greater than on 20 million handhelds.

You aren't really explaining how though considering all the competition. They can't simply port the games to phones and lower the res. It doesn't work like that... If its like PSNow, there are will be latency and response problems since the LTE tower is so far away and not to mention the datacaps.