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JustBeingReal said:
Miyamotoo said:

I think he has poorly chosen words, he later even call handheld "the thing", he could call base unit a home console, it's very obvious he has hard time explaining whole concept, he also in one video called it hybrid.

JustBeingReal's reply: There's literally no reason to think Boogie's words were poorly chosen, I don't know if your native language isn't english or some other other issue that effects your ability to assess the statements others make, but you often don't seem to actually grasp a person's words as they are intended.

Boogie's wording was deliberate and based on what he was told.

He's not calling the handheld the system here, if he was then he wouldn't have said the handheld can play a form of the game, he would have just said the handheld plays the game exactly as it does when you play it on the console, there would be no difference, he didn't emphasize the same level of performance in both modes.

A mobile device is more limiting technically, it has to be because space is needed to help deal with the heat issues of more power intensive processing technology.

"I've talked to two people who have used it. One is from Ubisoft and he said programming for it is actually really nice and Nintendo is working very closely with him and that the concept is great because he said, you could play... Uh, I dunno how careful I should be with it... Let's say you could play Assassin's Creed once you have your handheld plugged into your console. And then, you could then detach the thing and take it with you and play the Assassin's Creed mobile game out of your pocket. And then when you get back home, plug it directly in and now it attaches back to the... That's brilliant. That's smart, right? Taking a form of the game with you as you go. So he says it's a dream to code for. And then somebody I know who's played on the NX for 20 minutes said... It's as innovative as they'd hoped and 'we wish we had done that.'"

JustBeingReal's reply: You've literally just reinfoced my point, by copying Boogie's words and they show he's not saying what you believe him to be.

Actually read his comments straight, without thinking about the Eurogamer rumor, remove that from your mind, Boogie's saying this system has a handheld and a console, the handheld plays a form of the game, it doesn't play the exact same way on the handheld as it does when you plug the handheld into the console, the only way that works is if the console has more power, the handheld fits in a person's pocket, which means it's far more limited in it's ability to deal with heat that a processing chip puts out and that means it's not going to be able to overclock or have extra internal processing tech that can be activated when connected to a mains power supply.

Nowhere in Boogie's comments did he say that NX docks into a dummy unit that sends gameplay to your TV, he just says it connects, which could be through a dock, but also a cable or some other manner that Nintendo worked out.

No way it will cost $450, after 3DS and Wii U Nintendo will not again go for high price espacily in middle of generation, they know it cant have higher price than XB1/PS4, also Nintendo said they aiming affordable price. Personaly I expecting $249-299 price point.

There's definitely no way NX is going to be that expensive as a single unit or even with the kind of thing that Boogie was told NX is.

The tech to make a console with performance around XB1 and PS4 or slightly better than PS4 for a console, bundled in with a handheld that can get around a 7th gen console (which is what a pocket fitting form factor device can handle) could be done for $299.

 

 

Fact that NX will sell much better than Wii U. :D

JustBeingReal's reply: Which isn't based on anything tangible right now, in order for that to happen Nintendo would need to target the market that buys third party games with their own exclusives, they haven't done that since the SNES days really when younger people gamed, now they ignore the people that made up the majority of their audience back in the earlier console days.

This requires a minimum level of performance technically speaking to accommodate the vision that 3rd party devs have and also allow Nintendo's own developers the freedom to expand their IP to more diverse heights.

Generally the wider gaming audience would care more about accessibility and how the device fits around their lives and that it provides them with the ability to play all of the titles they want.

 

There's no way casuals will care about a dedicated gaming device either, they'll just continue to play on the tech they already have.

See reply in bold.

 

FYI SuperMetalDave64 has put out a video talking about Boogie's latest blog post.

It seems Boogie's sources aren't verified, but rather they've be right about some of the rumors leaked and he feels they could be legit, just as with the SMD64, Eurogamer, WSJ, IGN and other articles talking about NX leaks people should take all of this with a big grain of salt.

Yes there is reason to think he chosen words poorly because it's very obvious he has hard time explaining whole concept, and fact that people are not sure what exactly he meant also proves that.

No, you cant make home console of PS4 level of power packed with standalone handheld and sell it for $299 with profit.

More popular console with bigger instal base will have better sales of games, logical, thats was my point.

 

I wouldn't put Bogie and SMD with Emily and some other sources, not to mention Eurogamer, WSJ and IGN. Bogie is not know like someone who has sources, he heard something and he talked about it, if got real information from real source we dont know, but apparently he is usually honest. SMD don't have any source, he just posting his opinions, he had real source but lost it when basically post everything (including marketing budget, lol) that was told to him. Emily definitely have some sources, but of course is not true everything she says. Eurogamer, WSJ and IGN have incompatible much better connections and better sources in industry, so they are definitely much more reliable and more serious about those matters than Emily, not to mention Bogie and SMD.