superchunk said:
I think you are not putting a fair evaluation between these. (only using the 5" variants of any phone) 1) Google's camera is top of the industry. Specs suggest this is true and we'll have to wait for the inevitable comparisons to come soon. All past 'blind tests' have solidly proven Galaxy line has better cameras than iPhone (and others). I think this will especially be true in low-light scenarios. I am pretty sure it will trade blows with the Galaxy S7. The fact that they didn't mention it in the press conf at all but mentioned the iphone 7 is suspecious as best since the S7 has a better camera than the iphone 7 and has been touted the best camera this generation ever since its release. 2) Display is definitely right there with Galaxy S7 and both are better than iPhones, especially true in the XL variants. (comparing ppi) No its not, 1080p with Pixel vs 1440p with S7 (Unless you get the Pixel XL which costs even more) 3) CPU/GPU has Pixel in the lead with pure hardware specs, but there is more here than raw power anyways. iPhone's hardware is more than efficient for its OS and runs, generally, very well. Fast and responsive. However, Samsung's Touchwiz is a bloated whale. This is a very good reason why even Nexus phones of the past ran better than their much more over-powered Galaxy cousins. Vanilla Android is more efficient and thus requires less hardware. But in the case of Pixel, you have both. Hence why I mentioned International Varient with the Galaxy S7. It uses the Exynos version of the CPU which is far better than the Snapdragon 821 in virtually every aspect. That CPU almost reaches iphone 7 levels in terms of multicore performance while Snapdragon doesn't. And the bloatware isn't no where close as it used to be... http://www.techgrapple.com/apple-a10-sd-821-820/ You really underplayed the benefits of Nexus and to a similar extent Motorola's OS experience has been as compared to Touchwiz. I have a Moto X (2nd edition) 2014 model phone. My wife has the Galaxy S6 2015 model phone. Her phone is significantly more powerful than mine. Yet, mine runs circles around hers as Motorola X's were redefined by the short time Google owned them. They run an nearly vanilla Android OS. Fact is, you can tout multi-window or other features all you want, but the experience and useage of the OS is predominate as that is what you do 100% of the time, use it. Galaxy S phones are more sluggish, last to be updated and have the largest storage space footprint of any OS. Buy a 32GB iPhone and you have 27GB free out the box. Pixel has 24GB (due to Android 7's duplicity for seamless updates) and Galaxy S7 has 23GB without Androud 7's new seamless update feature which uses about 2GB. Turning that feature off, if possible, would put Pixel around 26 GB free space out-the-box. Then you add a new launcher to be better than touchwhiz and you lose even more space. Seems silly to attempt to argue Samsung is doing this the right way. And how do you determine this "runs circles around" aspect? Also it was known that the S6 has had Ram issues and it was Samsung's weakest flagships as far as respective releases are concerned. The S7 fixes virtually all issues that the S6 had. While it is true the S7 uses more storage, you left out the fact that it has a micro SD card which the pixel doesn't... So sure, you can have 26gb of free space on pixel but you can have 200+ gb of free storage on an Galaxy S7. Lauchers are what? A few mbs? That is a silly argument at best. With Pixel, you can get a MAX storage of 26gb unless you opt out for the other model which costs much more. With a Galaxy S7, your storage limit is as big as your microsd card allows. And those are dirt cheap to buy and easy to move from phone to phone. I have also used nexus devices in the past and god did I miss some of the features that Galaxy devices had like Multi-window. Having the ability to chat while browsing in the same screen is wonderful and it was avaliable since the Galaxy S4. Sure, Touchwiz is not as "fast" as stock but tons of people who used stock before don't mind the speed of touchwiz in the S7. 4) Software updates are a huge thing. When Samsung users have to take a wait-and-see approach to getting the latest features and if noted as coming to them, then wait 6 months or longer, is a big difference. Especially if you consider security or defect fixes a big issue. This has always been the big win for iPhone and Nexus devices. Shit breaks or is demonstrated as unsecure, bam update is quickly put out. Everyone else will see it at best 3 months later or worst never. Samsung releases security updates on a monthly basis like every other Android manufacturer. And considering that Nexus 6 got delayed with its Android N update by a month, yea they aren't on time either. And oh look, Nexus 6P is apperently not going to get the Google Assistant for quite a while either: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/55uvny/from_the_verge_huffman_showed_it_to_me_google/ Yea, Samsung devices get OS upgrades later than Nexus do but guess what, it will get them eventually. Meanwhile the current Pixel/Nexus phones will never get the hardware features. 5) Price is not $100 more for a Pixel based on how people normally buy phones. At retail the iPhone 7 and Pixel 5" (ish) 32GB models are $650 from Apple and Google respectively. The 32GB S7 is at best ($550 to $650) on Amazon (the "international version - no warranty" was the cheap-o) or more based on my looking at Verizon ($672) and AT&T ($694), which is where people buy their phones primarily... at their carrier. People rarely buy retail and at the carrier the prices are pretty much the same. Basically, the price is a not a vital part of the decision making process in this scenario. Too bad not everyone is on verizon and Pixel is exclusive to verizon so the rest of the people do have to pay the extra $100... I don't understand how this is even an argument. Oh and it is pretty easy to find versions with warranty for the same price on ebay. And yes, they are new. I know cause thats how I got my Galaxy S7 with a 2 year Samsung warranty. Remember, that is in CAD. Convert it to USD and it comes to $550 6) Water resistance. Yes Pixel has none. It is a benefit that is missed and becoming common on the high-end devices. Not a deal breaker, but a missed benefit. Not a deal breaker but adds to the lack of features for the same price that its main competitors offer. 7) Wireless charging is overrated and slow. All three have fast-charging functionality which is what people actually use. It is not overrated. Virtually all new cars are coming with wireless chargers in them and Samsung does have fast wireless charging. Its pretty easy to install it on people's old cars as well. Yes it is slower than doing it through the cable but when you are on your car, it is simple and easy without having to fiddle around with cables. 8) Connections. Pixel has USB-C which is far faster and replacing micro-usb. By next year all new phones will be USB-C. This will enable fast charging with more than the proprietary cable that came with your phone too. Ummm what? Micro-USB isn't properitary... And all phones in the future (as well as many in the present) have USB-C 9) Micro-SD card is also overrated. I haven't bought an SD card to expand any phone in over 10 years. Plus Google offers unlimited back up of anything with its services. I've actually lived with 16GB phones for quite some time now. My phone auto-backs up all of my photos/videos and the only time I've ran into issue has been apps. But very rarely... moving to 32GB will be perfect for me. Moving to 128GB is likely perfect for just about anyone. Have you ever asked yourself why iPhones and Nexus phones haven't ever had expandable SD card slots? Because it creates latency in software and impacts user experience. It also adds a weak point to your setup as SD cards can lose data. I'd always choose to spend a little bit more on larger internal memory phone than extend with an SD card. How is it overrated? You just argued about storage and all off a sudden, having more storage is overrated? Yea okay there. And not to mention that high resolution photos and videos as well as games require more storage. And how on earth does it create latency and impacts user experience? Instead of having a limited amount of storage, you suddenly have tons of storage to store your photos, videos and games. I moved games to my micro-sd card all the time and there is virtually no performance impact. Maybe a second or 2 longer for loading times in games sure but considering I can move GBs of stuff there and keep the more demanding games on the internal storage is a god-send. 10) Other features... these are really nonsense. Heart monitors in your phone can't possible be that accurate. You want something for fitness, then spend $50 and buy a real monitor. Really all that is different here is the specific OS niceties each company will provide. I prefer the seamless integration of Google's services, especially Google Now (partially renamed as Assistant), over any bells and whistles Samsung has added (especially considering the tax on the hardware those come with). With Pixel only little things I'll miss is Motorola's gesture based functionality, including its touchless sensors. (which is why I am tossing the idea of getting the Moto Z instead... but the physical look/case is risk on that one) It is pretty accurate actually. Just because you havn't used it doesn't mean other people don't. I understand that you have a preference and that is great for you. So you can get the pixel if you really think its that important but the arguments you made are just odd. Do some research before you reply with more touchwiz is terrible comments please, specially since virtually everyone has said that the newest touchwiz on S7 is excellent including people who hated it. When all is said and done, the only things this doesn't do as compared to other high-end competitors is water resistance and bloat the shit out of your experience. |
At the end of the day, you are paying more for less. If software updates matter to you that much that you are willing to give up many hardware features of the Galaxy S7 and iphone 7, then go for it but, specially looking many sites, this is not only going to not make a scratch at iphone/S7 sales but many Nexus users are going to skip and hope the next one has a better value. And for a very good reason too..
And by the love of god, please do some research
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