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mutantsushi said:
JRPGfan said:

Except Im not makeing them up.
Watch the video I linked. Michael pachter says them in the video (he either made them up, or knows them).

Seriously, you want to quote MICHAEL PACHTER now?  Really, you want to stake this on believing him?  Gotta remember this one.

But when I look into this more, I am actually more taken aback by your conduct here.

You might remember, there was a dedicated thread (which I started), focused solely on the ascertaining the actual cost differential.
You might remember that you yourself participated in said thread.
You might remember that your very first post there referenced a teardown cost analysis stating difference in price to be $15.50.
In fact, you were the very first poster in the thread to reference that specific cost figure.

JRPGfan said:
Ive heard people quote some tear down that estimated the costs of the Xbox One Slim,
and the drive there was like 15.5$ more expensive than the normal drive.
I think thats where this idea of it just being a extra 15$ in terms of bills of materials comes from.

So my reference to "some" claiming that figure, in fact directly APPLIES TO YOURSELF.  
Yet you sit here throwing up bigger numbers, and arguing when people claim those are way above the mark.  
WTF!?  What kind of scuz bag shit is this?  So sorry, but I don't need to waste my time with you anymore.

For anybody else,
the $15.50 difference was from IHS Markit teardown analysis of Xbone S (w/ 4K/UHD BD drive) saying it cost $33.50.
Although they claim previous drive cost $18, while their original analysis when Xbone came out stated it cost $32 ($28 for OG PS4).
And of course, all those figures would include normal copyright protection, codec, etc, licencing costs,
which could plausibly be split out from base cost by having those features only delivered thru PSN-purchased player software.
The increased physical requirements for 4K/UHD spec BD is so minimal that manufacturing costs can not be significantly higher,
not the least when OG PS4 drive is already above base BD spec itself in terms of read speed etc.

And in fact it isn't clear that 4K/UHD-BD capability isn't just a firmware patch away, not just for Pro, but also Slim or OG PS4.
The only reason why they couldn't be so patched is lack of hardware specs, which hasn't been shown to date AFAIK. 
(interested to hear any solid sources on that, though)

Because 25$ was what Michael Patcher said it was in the video.

He mentions he talked to Sony. Im assumeing thats the number they gave him.

I ll take his word for it, just like I took the word of those teardown guys that rated the drive to be a addtional 15.5$ more.

Maybe there are more costs beyound just the drive, to get it to work? I dont know.

The reason I said that number was because thats the number referenced in the video I linked.

 

"WTF!?  What kind of scuz bag shit is this?  So sorry, but I don't need to waste my time with you anymore."

That sounds kinda personal man lol.

Does it matter if its 15.5 or 25$ saved? point is Sony felt it was the smarter choice.

Did they pass on the saveing to the consumer? or just pocket them? who knows, end of the day its their choice.

You can only vote with your wallet.

 

Also a teardown crew guessing at prices, or someone that supposedly asked sony.

How do you know Pratcher isnt the one with the right price?