Chazore said:
Compared to what?. What number are we talking ehre?. As far as I can tell, you are making a abseless assumption without numebrs to back it up. Of course when you do, you'll have to take notice of the users that use Steam, that buy from GoG, Uplay, Origin, B.net, Physical and then of course the general casual market that exists on PC playing simple games like farmville. The amountt hat prefer to also play on PC is quite huge, but you'd rather justy ignore that entirely or argue it away from existence, still won't stop those numbers though. I don't know why but you seem to claim "no PC isn't DoA", but then turn around to basically put it out behind the shed with your "factual" arguments. It's like you are trying to make yours sound fair, but really you're just trying to go about the long way of saying that PC stands no chance against nearly anything on the console side of things, you can deny that all you want but your arguments prove this. That is unless you now want to take the mantle and make a bunch of arguments that show positives for the PC side, but I'd imagine those to be "insignificant" or tiny enough to never really matter. Just like how high end users don't matter since low end users are the end all to be all. Also love how you tossed in "port begging". That tends to show where you stand and which side you go with, well that and "the problem with PC gamers like you". |
I will quote my previous answer:
"I'm not saying they necessarily don't sell well, but they do sell a lot less than on consoles, except in a few games that have more PC centric sales. From Steam Spy (PC) and VGC (consoles):
- GTA V: 5M (PS4 alone is 12M, all consoles are close to 50M!!!)
- CoD BOPS 3: 1.2M (14M on PS4 alone)
- Far Cry 4: 750K (PS4 is 4M)
- The Division: 800K (ok, also on Uplay, but I highly doubt more people bought it there - PS4 is 3.5M)
- Fallout 4: 3.4M (PS4 6.9M)
- Alien: Isolation: 800K (PS4 1.2M, close call)
Since this is PC vs console, the more fair thing would be to sum all console versions, which would make this even more distant. Mind that PC games usually sell at lower prices and have insane discounts, so the difference in profit is even bigger."
So here are the numbers to back it up. I can get more from Steam Spy, these are just some examples. No EA game unfortunate since they are Origin Exclusive. As for Uplay and GoG, they don't sell nowhere near as much games as Steam. Physical copies sell just a few too and a lot of them nowadays just come with a Steam code (it's beyond me why companies create boxes to put a code). Using only Steam numbers is quite reasonable. Also, the console number are retail only. It's reasonable to assume that most games today have 10 to 20% of sales as digital downloads, so console sales numbers are probably being more affected by this than the PC ones by losing retail/GoG/Uplay.
Also mind that I'm really not saying that PC is dead. I'm saying that AAA games sell much more on consoles and that's basically a fact for 97% of releases. Not being the n.1 selling platform doesn't mean it's dead. X1 sells less tha PS4 and is healthy. Same for PC. That just means that the priority will be the one who sells more, not that the others will be abandoned.
This is actually only valid for AAA games, since for casual games it's better to just play on PC since any notebook will cut it. However, these segment is probably heading to mobile more these days.
You can really think that I am anti-PC, but I'm just against the PC gamers that go around on the web bragging that PC is the best platform evaaahhh and anyone who plays on consoles is stupid because PC is perfect, so the so called "Master Race". In these guys opinion, nothing on consoles is really good and everything on PC is perfect. So I'm using sales number to prove the point regarding who is the priority for publishers. The numbers are here, so that's it.
We are in a videogame sales site, so everyone knows how much games sell on consoles and we have Steam Spy, so we know how much they sell on PC. You and Zero are questioning my numbers, but I have sources and they are all on my posts.
