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Guitarguy said:
AsGryffynn said:

If so, I am happy you guys are getting one of the best games Sony has released so far. It really deserves the upgrade (there's Until Dawn, but I am not getting my hopes up)... 

I think native 4K will be limited to exclusives and the ocassional marketing deal. Most devs know the vast majority of people use 32 inch displays... 


There won't be many native 4K games on either console that are on Uncharted 4/Gears 4 calibre. Gears 4 on PC using a Skylake 6600 and a 9 TF Nvidia GTX 1080 at 4K and the frame rate was around 30-45 frames with minimal dynamic scaling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_D9iX9U40E

At about the 14.40 minute mark.

I know consoles and PCs are not really 1:1 but we are seeing a VERY expensive GPU(more than the rumored price for the entire Scorpio) at 9TF just handling the game at 4K at 30 frames. Not sure if the settings were all set to 'ultra' though.

Next gen should be all about native 4K.....

nVidia's Teraflops isn't representative of AMD's Teraflops.

Nor is it representative of any kind of rendering resolution.

exdeath said:

 One of the worst things Microsoft ever did to the world by entering the console market.  EA and Activision are to blame of course but MS was an enabler that shifted the gaming audience to the older "mature" "cool bro" demographic that fucked up 7th gen by spearheading PC like FPS on consoles with Halo soon followed by Call of Duty and the rest of the PC shovelware consoles now suffer from.

I disagree.

Competition is a great thing... And Microsoft has pushed innovation in the console market, which cannot be understated, many of the features you enjoy on <insert console here> was thanks to Microsoft pushing it.

Have they been perfect? Heck no. But you cannot understate the positive influence they have done for the entire market... Without them, the PS4 might have cost $1000 and Sony might have told you to get another job to pay for it.

And the same works in reverse as well, Sony and Nintendo have been extremely positive influences on the entire market and helped drive innovation, without them it wouldn't be where it is today.

Lawlight said:

Why would anyone stop paying for PS+? That's like complaining that you can't watch th movies on Netflix after you're not subscribed anymore.

I'm not suggesting anyone to stop paying for PS+? And you are side-stepping half the issue here anyway, the fact it can be seen as a negative and it does have negative aspects. (Money is better in our pockets at the end of the day.)

But you know, not everyone is in the same financial position as us and has the disposable income either.




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