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nanzano said:
Trunkin said:

If $250 is mass market, $400 is premium. Let's be honest, they're throwing around these vague statements because they're still not sure exactly what price point they're going to be able to hit, but I think $399, is a safe bet, especially considering the price of the Pro right now. $499 for the base model would be suicide, as the console as they've announced it doesn't offer enough over the Pro (or even the XB1S) to justify that cost.

I don't recall back in 2013 ps4 price considered as premium with PS360 being under $199, but the xbo1 was. PS4 Pro is cheap because they avoided a new CPU option which would  have put it to $499. Consoles get cheaper when the production cost of the SAME chipset goes down. Completly new chipset allways means higher price at lauch. Sony can affort that ps4Pro price because only the ps4 pro gpu is different(but same architecture) and they have the market lead so they prety much have the garranty that they will sell shit tons of ps4 pro since it is a ps4.  Scorpio has a seperate CPU and GPU so the manufacturing process will be more expensive. So If M$ sells the Scorpio at 399 it will be at lost even in 2017, I know they have money in the bank but I don't think they can simply through it away at will, 399 is too risky for a doubtfull market where all exclusive has been moved to PC 

Scorpio components will most likely be practically off-the-shelf, even moreso than the original XB1, so I don't think changing them is going to be all that much of a problem, cost wise. Might even be cheaper. The CPU will most likely still be a low end piece of hardware, just not quite as low end as the PS4Pro's. GPU is probably an Overclocked RX480, which, iirc, is actually the same card as the Pro.. I think $400 is doable with little to no losses, but I guess we'll see.