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Barkley said:
Raviel said:

That's a very good point. However, even most of those games rely on fighting the enemies in order to get your point across. It's not the main thing to jump on Goombas but you still do if they're an obstacle. Pokémon relies on creatures fighting other creatures etc, etc. 


I'm not at all trying to disregard your answer but I'm trying to find the games that doesn't rely on fighting (physical) at all as a main mechanic.

Animal Crossing is a very good example though and that is also highly successful so your point is definitely valid. I should look into Nintendo titles even more.

Well if you include mario in the violence category then I'll amend my response.

Enemies are required for action and challenge, without enemies Mario would be incredibly boring. Now you could change the enemies such as goomba's and koopa's to unliving obstacles, such as cannonballs and other things moving across the screen, however this removes a large amount of design, aesthetic and character from the game. It's difficult to make a game without living enemies that doesn't feel completely soulless and uninspired.

You need enemies for challenge and you need those enemies to be living for them to be interesting, memorable, impactful and have character.

I see where you're coming from, but I'm thinking that enemies and obstacles can be won over through other means than fighting. I recognize that all media rely on fighting to some degree to tell their stories. To overcome an obstacle but how many games use other systems in order to the same thing? It can still be a system in order to "fight" for your cause but it doesn't have to involve physical fighting. For example a group at my school a few years ago made a space shooter where you were "shooting" words on enemies to make them see things from your point of view and become friends with you.

In Mario's case the jumping on goombas is fine, I'm not trashing on games that has fighting mechanics in them I'm just trying to see the games that doesn't require fighting at all and see what place they hold in the market. I hope that made som sort of sense :P