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ultima said:
Johnw1104 said:

I'm don't mean to defend Apple, a company I have plenty of problems with, but rather the iphone 7. I'd have to watch that video but I'm not sure what his issue is with the sound... I'm not sure how you'd improve it unless you're looking to blow out your ear drums. Perhaps my ears simply aren't trained enough.

It's normal for reviews to focus on the negatives as they should, as the positives are always advertised. If the negatives don't bother you, you generally know you'll probably like the product.

Otherwise, cnet are reliable reviewers (I believe that's who I rely on for tv reviews) and there's no conspiracy here; despite whatever cons he found, this is still a fantastic phone.

Haven't watched the video either, nor have I used their new lightning headphones, but back when I had an iPod and insisted on using Apple headphones for style, I remember being completely mind blown by the difference in sound quality when I got to try out headphones that were about the same price. I eventually realized that you can get better quality headphones for about $10. While I generally believe that all Apple products are overpriced, their peripherals in particular are horrendous for what they cost.

Oh and as for the video, they also mention the new heaphones do not let you skip forward by double tapping. Which I'm pretty sure apple might have made popular, and most all wireless headphones do now. But there are some amazing sounding wireless buds that do stay in anyones ear for the same price as these things. And there are wired ones that sound even better than all the above and cheaper still. And again with various methods of staying in ones ear, whether that is around the ear holding, vaious rubber size buds, or the inside the ear rubber shaped things. 

The point is, if anyone wants anything sound quality, as you said, you would not use apples stock headphones (stock headphones $160 is a joke), but another brand. And as someone above pointed out, you can't charge and listen at same time. 

I'm sure people will come in and say "when do you charge and listen at same time" just as people defend sony for no UHD player, saying it's for gaming.

But my sister was going to get the 7. She is an apple person. But when she heard no headphone jack, she decided not to, because that is what she uses in her car. She hooks up it to her car stereo. Yes she can use adapter, but then she can't use the charger. And that is one major incentive when in a car. You can charge you phone whiel using it. Whether it's the music streaming or using it for GPS. People like to charge phones in their car.